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BeggarsCantBeChoosers2017

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BeggarsCantBeChoosers2017

 


 

Introduction/Definition/etc

 

Maybe basket cases would be a better title,

as you can't choose what foods you get at

one instance of a food pantry...

 

 

Body

 

Follow on to

ThePracticalitiesOfFoodDistribution2012

and

CookingShows2017

mash up with

HomeCookedMesses2014

and

OdetoaFarmersMarket

plus

BachelorsRicePuddingVeganOption

 

Here is a partial list of what one might get at a

food distribution site...

 

At the warehouse, it is a little different,

and you have a room, and

a small lobby type area,

plus hours of waiting outside,

or so where

you choose more with people

(staff, volunteers and other customers)

looking over your shoulder,

sometimes helpful sometimes with

their own issues...

 

Proteins

 

(usually one of the three following)

 

chicken

 

 Frozen in large sandwich type bags,

 (seal a meals (tm?)?)...

 It doesn't look like they had a good life,

 bruising, on the ankles, some feathers

 left in sometimes, repackaged from bulk

 by "professionals"...

 

Unlike chicken breast, I haven't seen much of,

mostly thighs and drumsticks or

recently just drumsticks (surprisingly big,

i thought they were turkey, but not really...)

 

fish

 

Packaged frozen (Chinese?)

but I don't usually get those, as too hungry,

(my brain needs food too,

but chicken seems like more calories,

and some left over skillet fat for frying eggs, etc)...

 

hot dogs

 

Maybe available, maybe not...

(chicken based)

Usually make me constipated,

not sure why...

 

Other Proteins

 

Besides the cold and frozen categories,

some canned and others are mostly

proteins...

 

Milk

 

1/2 gallon of milk, 2 percent or 1 percent

milk fat

 

I might be lactose intolerant,

a lot of older people are,

I learned recently,

your body changes with time...

Go figure...

 

Eggs

 

1 dozen medium size eggs

Grade A it says, in styrofoam

 

Occasionally a larger size,

like they ran out and filled with

what they could get...

 

Sometimes, stamped/ printed ink with dates

"Use by: " $Date on the eggs,

(hopefully in FDA ingestable (sp?) ink,

as hard boiled eggs,

much less Easter Eggs?)

other times problems packing

and / or carrying, so broken and

I discover a mess when I get home...

(And less edible, and more

foodborne illness likely...)

 

I never even knew mediums existed,

until these, but it counts, I guess,

sometimes shells seem thin and

difficult opening/cracking, as falls apart

in my hands instead of the usual opening/

cracking methods...

 

Keep above (chicken, milk, eggs) in a freezer/

refrigerated bag, as travel times in a warm day,

van delivering, and carrying home, etc... 

Rinse/ clean the bag, and use liner bags

to keep it from getting grody (sp?),

as the salmonella, e. Coli and handling etc

is a problem.  Counter tops may start out clean,

but hours later handing out thawing bags...

 

Main cans

 

tuna

 

Usually a small tuna can,

I call cat food,

as about that size, iirc.. 

 

Have had variations like salmon,

maybe some with skin on,

and lots of bones to pick thru,

in larger cans,

even by name brand companies,

and sardines, oysters, clams,

(Pickled Herring? ;-) etc

in an easy to open container,

but sometimes the tab doesn't work

right/is broken?

Most take a can opener, and 

likely to cause your stomach to hurt

probably from mercury...

It's hours later, maybe,

so keeping a food log,

and/or the packaging around, and

you might figure out what caused it

and likely reasons why...

 

soup

 

I usually use for a sauce/topping/seasoning

on rice or pasta...

 

Some odd soups over the years,

likely found/ discovered and/or later

looked for in a store,

 

Italian Wedding Soup

 

Somehow interesting,

if only the mysterious sounding name,

kind of like a mix,

originally seemed a little oily,

ingredients may vary based on

what's available, I guess,

to keep the marriage going,

kind of like goulash, succotash,

local variations, etc...

 

Sweet Cream of Bean Soup

 

(with coconut)

Habichuelas con Dulce

 

Holiday time only, Goya makes one,

but not listed on their website, afaict...

Online recipes show high sugar,

almost syrupy, but found for

~$.47 per can, or so,

(case price, someone nearby mentioned)

and I eventually, after going home trying it,

bought 18 cans, 3x6, in two walking trips

to a grocery store with limited carrying capability

in bags, and used up within a week or two...

Somewhat grainy?, Puerto Rican,

and/or Dominican, iirc..

Goya UPC 0 41331 02169 2

Tasted good, but high sugar,

the discount label covered over ingredients,

to tell if sugar was one of first three...

 

Spices

 

Spices are catch what you can

from what is in the mixed foods

like soups flavouring other plainer

starchy stuff like rice/pasta, etc..

 

Though one time, only once, they had

a choice of three spices packages,

in two sets, what I got was:

ginger,

black pepper

and something else (garlic? Nope Cloves)

in small ZipLoc (tm elsewhere) bags,

like bulk to repackaging to save money

but computer printed labelled,

which was nice, as I might not know

what they were, otherwise

It took me a while for oatmeal, and rice,

as not Instants, and no packaging prep

directions, etc. 

 

It may have been from my comments

when visiting the warehouse

and a volunteer took on the task,

with management's blessing,

but didn't get the atta girl response

she had hoped for from demanding

critical and/or difficult customers...

Might be the implementation,

and/or the noisy stressful environment,

as tired, hungry and moody people

packed in like sardines don't generally

act in favorable grateful ways,

imnsho...

 

pasta box/ bag

 

I likely have something like a wheat allergy,

but that is what we get, and like most

of society, it is all over our foods,

like gluten...

 

rice bag

 

 repackaged like other foods from bulk

 but lots of times we don't get the rice ones...

 see elsewhere for instant/ long cook packaging

and labeling (sp?) issues, etc

 

I used to buy bagged rice in the 10-20 pound size

(Jasmine, Sweet/ Sushi, Brown, for variety)

to make sure I'd get through the month,

and have something...

Once I bought 2x 10 lb bags

of parboiled rice,

at a sale price (nearly half list?),

and hoped it would work

in the oatmeal like

bowl rapid microwave cooker,

but it's somehow different

and definitely not Instant, so use as regular

in the rice cooker (Black and Decker,

sounded like a tool, so can't be that bad right?...;-/

Mostly burns a bit on the bottom, but

stopping cooking just when the light changes/

switch/lever clicks and it's mostly browned,

not burned...   Stirring may make a difference,

most rices you don't iirc, but these might help...

Rinsing is a similar issue, some say you have

to, others say don't for nutrition and cooking

process...  See vegetables for similar rinsing

with bottled filtered water issues instead of

a clean water faucet...

 

oatmeal bag

 

Not Quick Oats, the regular stuff, long cook

mostly piled up so I didn't burn stuff,

then found a discount oatmeal rapid cooker

dish at Target, and started using them again...

It cooks small portions fill oatmeal to the line

(maybe 2x the individual packet sizes

where they have spices/seasonings too like

Maple Brown Sugar, Cinnamon Apple, etc)

then add water to the next line...

The lines need to be easier to see,

as indentations in black on black at the bottom

with handles and a lot of expanding space

It usually overflows and have to clean up a mess,

timing is difficult too, as start 2 minutes,

add 30 seconds, maybe a few times, as needed,

while watching, etc.. But I don't want to be too

close to the microwave in operation...

 

A possible learning here:

do some math/ heuristics on

variables like amounts

(oatmeal, water),

temp of water,

heating qualities

(Watt oven, 100% power, etc...)

powderiness and flake size

of the oatmeal,

stirring, think America's Test Kitchens?

on a much simpler scale...

 

dried beans bag

 

I usually give that away,

to someone different each time,

so dependency doesn't happen,

arguments, etc...

 

black beans, pinto beans, other varieties

have existed, read somewhere online

the black part is not good for you in some

of the beans, not sure what it is,

but handling it is something else,

maybe black eyed peas?

find link?

 

As they piled up, and I could have made

bean bag chair with them,

and/or juggling bags if I knew how to sew...

But spraying for insects and pesticides

might not be good for eating, so I don't

stock pile them anymore...

 

Plus, I didn't seem to know how to cook them...

There are quick methods that tried several times

after sorting them for rocks/stones,

maybe rinsing like rice...

so boil

or soak over night

rinsing, cooking times way too long?

 

Plus burning risks, etc

but I never got the hang of it...

plus would need Beano (sp? tm?),

a degassing pill like stuff,

maybe my digestion is different,

the discomfort is felt differently

or others just don't care as much...

 

 

fresh vegetables

 

(usually just one or a few of below)

 

Scary, as seen how they are handled,

and using bottled filtered water, difficult

to rinse and clean, while holding a jug

instead of faucet...

I had a salad spinner, but it disappeared,

somewhere years ago..

Maybe packed differently?

 

Eggplant

 

We recently had eggplant, turns out you can 

peel (I usually peel stuff, easier than cleaning

but losing fiber), slice and pan fry them

in a skillet kind of like veggie burgers,

put in toast with salt, etc...

 

Cabbage

 

A few times, we've gotten cabbage,

and I'm learning on it:

 

first brown onions, in oil,

in the skillet, cook them, sweating them,

with a lid, speeds it up, like a pressure cooker?

but watch not to burn

bay leave(s) 3 is probably too much...

 

cutting up one of the few cabbage,

over years,

I found a bad spot in the last one

dicing, half, then cut the core out,

carefully in diamond shapes

cutting out

taking lots of bad looking leave off first

 

add left over frozen chicken stock,

or just water,

simmer for maybe 30-45 minutes

or until softer

 

add Adobo (Latino garlic salt

with some other stuff (oregano, tumeric?),

but I buy without the peppers)

 

over rice, maybe with a nuked

sweet potato, and/or canned potatoes

sliced up similar to soups,

(but hoping for use as hash browns/

home fries...)

 

 

onions

 

Usually a mesh bag of say 3 large white

or yellow onions...

Popular, but not really for me, afaict,

I think my grandmother

was allergic to them,

as we traditionally had two different turkey

stuffing dishes one with

and one without onions,

so some for her, some for others...

Like a lot of stuff, trying to learn to use

them, as short on food otherwise,

or risk getting sick, if some allergy,

or other problem with them...

 

 

summer/winter squash/ zucchini

 

similarly

but nuke the summer ones and zucchini (sp?)

instead of pan fry

 

I would need to bake/ boil the winter

acorn squash,

but rarely, if ever receive, iirc...

 

 

tomatoes

 

sometimes fresh tomatoes, regular size,

and cherry have been seen,

as have a heirloom,

(or similar odd looking

but learned what they were,

similar to beefsteak tomatoes, iirc)

Don't smoosh (sp?) them,

and the tomato infectious disease scare

a while back, still scares me,

not that canned would not have

the same problem, would I have to cook fresh

for safety?

 

potatoes

 

Varieties: (russet/ white,

sweet/ yams, etc...)

 

Quantity/Availability: 

Usually three big ones,

or more smaller,

not sure the total weight,

maybe even had a large 10 pound bags

once or twice, around holiday times,

then nothing for a while...

 

Prep:

Peel and nuke in paper towels,

(or microwaveable (glass no metal clay)

tea cup saucers)

about 6 minutes depending on size,

sweet don't really require anything,

just eat, white/ russet, might need

some salt, vinegar, oil, or more adventurous

depending upon what else you get

(nope no real cheese given, but have to buy)...

 

 

fresh fruits

 

Quantity:

Usually about 6 in a coloured meshed bag

 

apples

 

OR

 

oranges

 

rarely

 

melons

 canalope

 honeydew

 watermelon

 

bananas, maybe really little ones,

seen at warehouse...

plantains are different, and we don't really get

 

Mangos

 ( got recently)

 

Favorite Recipe:

 

One of best things I made was an apple crisp,

nuked apples using the oatmeal, cinnamon,

brown sugar, butter/margarine or skipped? etc

then forgot how to do it...

I think I had an old, years expired seasoning mix

then tried mixing on my own, with a little

success, as used apples which normally

give me pains in the stomach,

and oatmeal which was piling up,

into something I traditionally like

(hey, it's sugary and comfort food,

even without the ice cream/ ala mode...)

 

More Cans

 

Quality/Quantity/Availability:

Sometimes dented,

Sometimes dated,

 

At the warehouse, you might get

dented/dated/ etc as freebies/

not counted against the categories/ limits,

like someone sorted out for quality control,

and just get rid of/ use at your own risk...

 

Cat Food:

 

I even saw cat food, actual cat food

someone pointed out on the regular shelves,

but as long as they knew it was actual cat food...

It's nice to think someone donated so a

cat could eat too...

And/or "Here kitty kitty,

take care of my mouse/

rat problem", become a new pet,

even if outdoor, etc...

Some poor are so lonely,

and needy animals are sometimes

good companions, but many have lots of

expensive needs like vet bills,

feeding them, etc, kind of like kids,

which are subsidized more,

but I digress... (I substitute robots,

but haven't gotten service animal status/

vests for them yet...)

 

soup is popular

 

Favourites:

Split pea soup is good, usually,

kind of like lentil, and my  tastes

are varied, not the usual clientele,

afaict, so I might know what something is,

and get it and/or it is questionable,

and give it to him, he will know what to do

with it, and/or gets it out of here, off of

our shelves/ problems/ questionable

list...  He wrote the training thing

we had to read,

ThePracticalitiesOfFoodDistribution2012

and pushed for volunteers to have

food safety training(s)...

And/or to get even,

or a practical joke, afaict...

I'm usually too tired to enjoy it,

so one sided and cruel,

as up hours before others

who just volunteer or paid

to be there and have better

choices of what and when to eat/

get food(s)...

 

 

tomato sauce

 

Variations:

Low sodium sometimes...

 

Uses:

I can use as a pasta sauce,

or as a low sugar ketchup,

maybe make my own BBQ sauce

when/if I get good at it...

 

diced tomatoes

 

Variations:

Sometimes with some seasonings

included...

 

Uses:

Kind of a poor man's/

woman's pasta sauce

like I usually use soup on the pasta/ rice

as a topping/sauce...

 

canned beans

 

Prep/Recycling Cans:

Some canned beans you rinse,

some you/I don't

if adding to some base,

I sometimes keep the liquid

instead of draining

like adding beans to rice

but I usually wash out the

pasty sentiment in the bottom

of the can, and do not save,

plus good for recycling the can,

cleaner....  And throw in glass jars,

and some plastics to the dish washer,

as cleaner, and running anyway,

probably have some spare space...

 

 

 

black beans

 

Beans give me gas

but I eat them sometimes with eggs...

Kind of a bastardized carne asada?

 

navy beans

 

Treat like black beans,

or use somewhere for soup?

 

garbanzo beans

 

Garbanzos don't require much prep

like add to salads... But the shells

can feel hard on the teeth/gums...

 

baked beans

 

Favourites/Uses/Availability:

 

Something I usually like,

but somehow in lines at the warehouse,

I usually only get a smaller size can,

as someone else is handling,

but can digest baked beans OK

for some reason, sure baked beans

has some sugar, but maybe not a lot,

(wishful thinking?) and add with hot dogs,

etc, for a regular/normal person meal...

Baked beans includes the ketchup like

tomato base, and if you have mustard,

even packets left from carry out...

 

or just like other beans/cans

on top pasta/ rice/ etc

as a base/ extender...

 

canned fruits

 

Occasionally we get them..

I like them, the less syrup the better,

or save the syrup and spare it out

on pancakes, toast, other stuff like oatmeal...

Fake sugars (artificial sweeteners like

NutraSweet (tm?)/ aspartamine (sp?)/

Splenda (sp? tm?), are bad, for me, so

in juice instead of syrup is best, imho...

 

pears

mandarin oranges

fruit cocktail

peaches?

 

bread

 

Risks/Variations/Restrictions:

 

I digest some breads differently,

maybe the wheat stuff is a problem,

Light bread with artificial sweeteners

are risky, for me...

Italian seems to process OK

ironically probably high gluten...

and a very white starch...

 

Favourite:

Milton multigrain did well,

when I shopped more for foods,

though two varieties exist,

the double pack like from

Big Box stores (like Costco)

has more wheat somehow...

 

triticale (a hybrid) is something

I might not digest well/agree with,

somehow, I noticed reading labels,

so I might have problems with it...

But reading labels, especially

from a distance, this or that from

10-20 feet away, while given food

and a line of people likely rushing,

interrupting and harassing behind,

even if the staff person

you happen to get is friendly

instead of sadistic...

 

One or two strikes, not that

one, that sadistic will likely know

what ones you can and can't eat,

and only offer the ones you can't

to pick a fight, or have to give

away to others, and suddenly

you don't have much of any food

after hours of waiting, and other

attacks/ abuse/predatory stuff...

 

Honey wheat I used to get,

but wondering about the wheat...

 

Check the Dates

 

Remember it might be expired,

some say they freeze them,

but I'm not so sure...

 

Most of it I freeze when I get it home,

and later put in the toaster to thaw/defrost,

mostly a couple slices at a time,

Odder shaped stuff like hot dog rolls,

and stuff you cut (whole loaves like from the

warehouse, baguettes, sometimes

keep out in the fridge/ counter and eat quickly?)

 

Yeast may not do well frozen, and some

think you don't freeze/nuke,

lest they are destroyed, but mostly

comments from those that sell to you,

so maybe commercial dependency

and like milk keep you coming back

while perishables disintegrate,

and wasteful too..

 

Day or two old is common, check for mold,

etc, spoilage, your health may be a risk,

and feed the birds instead?

 

Pastry

 

 

One of the most contentious items,

some selection depending upon

who is helping/ filling the bag/

parts of the order...

 

one of donuts, pie, cake, strudel, danishes, etc

I now try for Not pie, as I would have to pray to pie,

some think, so quibbling, cake is not technically

pie, strudel has some redeeming nutritional value,

 

I've gotten frozen you have to bake pies, a couple

of times, turns out the toaster oven can handle

single slices, sometimes, like left over pumpkin,

sweet potato and other pies like that...

But have to watch them carefully, not drip, burn, etc...

Some personal ovens turn off themselves (very nice),

others you have to set timers, a watch helps too,

as carry with you, kitchen timers exist,

but when built into the stove console...

and not go back to bed, (type too much)

watch TV, forget, interrupted, etc...

 

Again, Check the Dates

 

As with bread, check dates, for mold, etc

might have to eat in the pickup day,

just to make sure... Binge warning...

Especially with a big size, but it could be

your/my day's 3 meals is the large pastry,

trying not to spoil/ waste,

only have so many options,

and can't starve...

 

High sugar and likely have to exercise

off the sugar, when about all I generally

want to do is eat something and go back to bed

and/or with chocolate which I

generally don't do, besides the stimulants

caffeine included in chocolate,

carob (sp? not in dictionary?)

and other allergy possible,

others I know have it...

 

 

Incomplete

 

Probably not a complete list, as rushed,

and have other things to do,

I might get back to this, will see..

 

Variations do happen, but mostly

the same old stuff,

so have to learn to do new things with them...

i.e. watch CookingShows2017

do some experimentation, risk going

more hungry, burning stuff, spoilage,

getting food borne illnesses/

further sick, etc...

 

 

WareHouse

 

Generally the same, likely more variations,

as more donated, less handled?

but the facility has some more equipment:

frozen/refrigerator foods for pastry,

where you select while waiting for

second number in line,

with membership like card... 

Bakery you can just get,

two there, only one usually at the

distribution site(s)...

 

Supposed to do pastries after

you get the second number,

to keep track, someone punches your

paper ticket, but people are just waiting

around more...

 

The warehouse uses a different waiting

and ticket type system (stamped),

and different staff, likely,

I only go occasionally,

and can't double dip, one place OR

the other that week,

plus lines and heat, and

different customers, hypothermia,

hyperthermia (sp? need to add

not ignore...),

some people waiting

in cars/ carpooling etc,

and others may have it easier...

 

 

Food BoreDom

 

Variety is the key here, food boredom,

as mostly the same ingredients,

very little variation, but some discoveries too...

 

Like Karo, but included vanilla,

so some alcohol,

so read up on what it was,

fairly evil nutrition wise:

high fructose corn syrup,

and a substitute for sugar,

abolitionists and others

Northerners maybe have

access to real maple syrup

which is great

(see Dirty Jobs Sugar Camp),

but rarely, if ever seen around

a food distribution place, much less

pancake houses, and most

commercial places, high end,

and expensive only, as $18/quart on the

low end, we used to get a gallon, or few

when traveling near old relatives, and

I've visited a sugar camp, seen

some of the process, but not fully running

at the time, and before much of the fracking

(sp? need to add to dictionary)

pollution/ poisons pumped into the ground

to get natural gas out...

 

Honey seems to be the Southern and other places

sweetener...

 

The warehouse generally has Cereal boxes

and packaged flavoured oatmeal packets,

the top row may have a box,

and that there you can choose more,

more perishables like bananas are possible

sometimes there too...

 

Just pulled out of the refrigerator,

in milk crates, you can have one/two of those,

I got tritips (sp? add?) (beef) in BBQ sauce,

one of the few times in years

besides beef in soups,

and a refrigerated/ hotel/

frozen seal a meal type thing

around one holiday time, iirc..

Sometimes the freezers/ fridges

go bad, and someone picks up some

goodies, for quick use before spoiling...

 

BratWurst has had beer,

so beware, also got sick on it,

even cooked a long time,

so beware, again,

not sure what they are giving you

and while talking to you can't

spend time/ attention on what they

dump on you, instead of good,

healthy choices (i.e. go vegan),

would starve, and not an option,

with the USDA, nor Food Pantry,

though reasonable accommodations,

religious preference, should be possible,

legally and morally, especially given

started and staffed by pious church

lady like people and court ordered

abusers, predators, gangs,

stalkers, highly critical do gooders,

etc...

 

Holidays

 

Turkey

 

For Thanksgiving, maybe a week

or two before, we generally get a

whole ~10-13 lb. frozen turkey,

sometimes there are more,

and maybe two, if left over/ over stocked...

 

I get help cooking it, and share a little,

they likely provide the side dishes,

and do the labour of cooking it,

for hours, so it works out OK,

imnsho...

 

Maybe I'll learn, but using an oven...

I've tired a few times in my life,

but mostly leave it to better cooks/

chefs... I'm still not there...

 

 

Whole Chicken

 

Usually Christmas time,

a cooking challenge for some,

but finally some breast meat,

I think I used a slow cooker,

read the instruction and did it whole

maybe with some vegetables like onions,

potatoes and carrots...  (substitute

green peppers for potatoes, for the

Holy Trinity of cooking, some say)

 

I slowly learned to butcher it myself,

chop up into smaller parts,

roughly quarter it, for legs, thighs,

carve off with breast meat,

and some bones I don't know generally

what to do with maybe boil for soup

and/or stock...

 

Or just pan skillet fry it, like usual...

Saving oil/ fat for eggs and other cooking,

but refrigerate the skillet once cooled off,

between cookings (max: a couple days)

as oil can become rancid...

 

Add stock/ broth to rice, use like vegetable

broth, had hopes of making French Onion soup,

but never managed that... I would buy cheese,

stocking up to use the onions and hope to

make it, but just end up eat it,

usually Baby Swiss, some Sharp Cheddars,

even if lactose intolerant, as cheeses

have enzymes (rennet?) and maybe not

as much of a problem, or the sharp

pains in stomach like when eating cereal,

which for variety is fun, but not the pains

sometime later...  Similar with a lot of apples..

 

As a kid, had a small fryer and did make

onion rings myself...

Probably an issue cleaning it,

and trashed, eventually...

Like an Easy Bake Ovens, for girls,

I guess...

 

Totals

 

Total weight of the stuff, get an average,

a Large family is different than a single person,

so a difference there...

 

Weigh with yourself on a bathroom scale?

subtract out?

 

Mostly for carrying and planning purposes...

 

When donating, sometimes they weigh

on the way in, for value, easier than counting,

but customers might not get to do that,

weigh self on the way in, and out...

No bathroom trips, categories limited, etc...

 

Calories, and nutritional information, salt,

total up the cans and labels, look up the bulk

items (oatmeal, rice, beans, etc).

 

Checksum for completeness, a food log,

for pacing and nutritionally balanced,

etc...

 

 

Planning

 

Holidays happen and you can't necessarily

get food, and not know ahead of time

when they are (building monthly schedule?), so

maybe it falls on your day, maybe not, luckily,

can go to the warehouse, and check in there,

when closed locally...

 

But transportation (bus,drive and/or walk

bring a stroller/cart), weather (cold, wet, hot, sun),

while waiting outside for a few hours,

some personnel/ volunteers, etc...

See an earlier posting about getting the

ReducedFare card...

 

More choice at the warehouse, but takes a long

time deciding, if I've seen and tried the food before,

difficulty seeing the bags, especially without

touching the packaging, fine print, people

in a rush, but some around you may be even slower...

 

Personal information is a frequent commodity (sp?)

there and you are the meal, that way,

gossip, rumors, exploitive (sp?)

and predatory,

but entertaining opportunities,

clowning, noses, horns, etc too...

Especially when kids are there...

 

Bring your own calming and pass the time

stuff like music, headphones/speaker(s),

cell/smart phone, games, book, etc,

but no real wifi, yet, sometimes might get

signal of a bar, but not much...

 

 

Links

 

Background

 

CookingShows2017

 

FoodAttacks2016

 

HomeCookedMesses2014

 

ThePracticalitiesOfFoodDistribution2012

 

TheCookieLadyDies2012

 

Autreat2010Foods

 

OdetoaFarmersMarket

 

etc

 

Conclusion

 

Summary of experience or similar

 

Kind of a basket that you might get,

really a bag, or two, and you have to bring yours,

of what a challenge it might be to cook with

what is given and only what is given,

instead of having a pantry like some of the

CookingShows2017

 

Discussion

 

A place for feedback on the page presented

 

What are local food suppliers like?

Do you think a trip to the food pantry

is like a grocery store?

 

Do you have plenty?

In the summertime and when

reduced lunch is not available,

so out trying to get something,

almost anything to eat?

 

Are you the skinny kid who gets

beat up, figuratively and/or in reality

for your lunch money?

 

Or the big kid who is teased for being

heavy, and you don't need the food,

but it takes a lot more energy

to move you around...?

 

Lunch bag taken by the attacking dog?

Bullies, including Staff, etc?

 

Do you have a choice?

A real choice?

 

How many choices?

One strike and you're out,

"No Food/Soup For You"?

 

Are they picking fights,

making you beg for anything good?

Sadistic people supposedly helping?

Really just in it for sick pleasure

for themselves?

 

Maybe they are court ordered

and violating themselves out?

Or isn't that monitored well enough?

And/or Fairly?

In an abusive system that

really doesn't care.

while saying they do,

duplicitously (sp?)...

 

 

License

 

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Non Commercial, Non Derivative,

for the whole site's contents

unless otherwise explicitly stated

 

Page History

 

20200224 Jerry

  1. catch at typo one particularly bad
  2. and a few other things
  3. adding mangos
  4. as got recently
  5. and lots of other things to do with this
  6. if updated regularly,
  7. but then change the year,
  8. refactor,
  9. and tweeking (sp?) / perfectionism
  10. is endless...
  11. etc
  12.  

 

20170801 JerrySpeak

  1. while spell checking and adding/editing
  2. Adding categories to some of the entries:
  3. Variations/ Availablity/ Uses/ Risks/etc
  4. much more to do, but likely never done
  5. missing stuff, skipping crates and get less,
  6. the more you complain, 
  7. retribution for contributions like this,
  8. but they only want rave reviews,
  9. not reality...
  10. You're Fired!
  11. doesn't seem to happen in the hood...
  12. Just more attacks...
  13. waiting...
  14. waiting...
  15. You're misbehaving
  16. No Soup For You!
  17. Not funny when it's that or not eat,
  18. so just abuse, more abuse, no oversight,
  19. to say the least, and likely more people
  20. as the economy gets works for the lower 99%
  21. Trickle down economy from the trash to your plate?
  22. Tax writeoffs, wait longer ,then too spoiled,
  23. then give it to them, after other torutre of overcrowding
  24. and other nastiness and regular attacks against the poor,
  25. on government property, without any real protections...
  26. for safety and security are for the rich, working,
  27. and real people, not you, the poor, the sick, the disabled,
  28. the masses...

 

 

20170730 20070510EthicsDignityRiskJerry

  1. some changes,
  2. additions,
  3. cleanup,
  4. rewording,
  5. clarifying,
  6. etc

 

20170724 Jerry

  • Jerry created this page to log a typical selection, and
  • some issues with it, personal and systemic...

 

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