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Columbine

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Columbine

 


 

Introduction/Definition/etc

 

Name of a town in Colorado and location of a school

where shootings occurred.

 

Also a book by that name just seen on the BookTv.org

cable channel...

 

 

Body

 

 

Interesting perspective on the BookTV.org video taping

at the LA Festival of the Book.   Writer was a GLAAD

award winning journalism student from the LA Times?

who attended college in Boulder, CO.

 

At the end showed top pages of the handwritten

journals of the shooters, Eric and Dylan.

 

Talked about lawsuits towards pharma, families, etc

mostly settled out, though the home owners

insurance settled from the family of the shooters,

odd, but I guess got some equity out.

 

Some people left town, but their supports

were still there and returned.  Not sure how

one would deal with losses like that.

PTSD or similar mentioned by the writer

when he was researching and writing this stuff,

even an hour long phone conversation with a

specialist...

 

More locally, in the Michael Kennedy shootings,

the parents ended up jailed on weapons charges??

 

In VA Tech, [which someone called the 9/11

of school shootings], I heard the family moved

out of country and the father committed [suicide?]

back in Asia, though rumor, not confirmed.

 

A higher Judge put the supposedly sealed lower court

comments between parents [agreement was they could

ask anything? lawsuits were not about money, they

wanted information instead?], who could ask anything

but was to be destroyed, into the public in 20 years.

 

Federal Classified information usually has a time limit on it too. 

Not sure some stuff like details of the Manhatten Project

would ever be released, but things like people's

FBI records, say of Black Panther party surveillance

seems to make it out eventually.  CIA documents

on potential terrorist torture at gitmo seem to have

been released [by Obama?], after probably cleaning up

the agents left out in the field, or heavily censored,

don't know haven't seen them...

 

What is the public's right to know? 

Is the school the new battle ground when traditional media

bombards us with war images 24/7 and kids want to emulate that?

Or is the war where our enlisted and officers out

of country, and away from family risking their lives

daily for something that the media thinks is passe?

BookTv recently had Soldiers Still or similar with a

general office describing Vietnam, perhaps as lessons

we haven't learned yet?

 

Showing Dover AFB returns of coffins from our current

conflicts if the family agrees to allow it...  Is that appropriate

and respectful? Or political?

 

Is it video games fault for First Person Shooter

games?  Is virtual reality the place to put in the hands

of kids with things like Doom/ Free Doom that are

downloadable without a credit card?

I like 'free as in freedom'/ able to read code, inspect and modify

and 'free as in beer'/ no cost software,

but is there a limit to simulating situations or

virtual training grounds for minors to learn how to cause

mass death to others?

 

See also the 'a cry for help'  pbs show when I get around

to thinking/ reviewing  and writng about that, or should I just

skip that becuase no one cares about my opinion anyway,

they just got the RRWG money and f* an advocate

that helped make that happen [went to legistlature,

spoke briefly, attended most RRWG meeting despite

being outvoted on most stuff, and now blamed or excluded?]

and got nothing but grief [losses/deaths of friends] in return?

 

See Also

a cry for help pbs on teen mental illness

HighwayMessVolume2Issue1 some history of making a paper

highway4.pdf

WasteOfMyTime mostly angry/ disappointed/ used

the.great.white.funder.ss.exercise.pdf

NoVAPeersGoesToPrintFINAL.pdf some really tasteless 

some hopefully funny/ therapeutic...

i.had.a.dream.its.now.a.nightmare.to.ss.pdf

can.i.graduate.writing.pdf

 

Ombuds.proposal.ods

Ombuds.proposal.pdf

 

TisTheSeason

FormalNotice

GatekeepingOnTheFrontLines

EditorsRevenge

Plot

BewareOfTheIdesOfMarch

2008April16

TheShortOfIt

ARoastingFarewell

OneSidedPartnerships

RecoveryPartnershipsCon2009

AnEarlyMorningShare

 

ChairBullyingbyRevisionistBillShowingRRWGsCommitmentToCommonConsumers

IveBeenEdited

CreativityAsTherapyFeedbackAKAHateMail

dynohubs

ArtWork

 

ChillingEffects

VirginBirthAndOtherFictions

PBWikiCountersLostAgainStipendsLastWinter

BrainFoundationOpensLaurasHouse

CollegeConsumerMHResources

 

EthicsDignityAndRiskTraining

StreetSenseAndRRWGLackOfFiscalProcedures

 

OneLaptopPerChildoplcorg

SullyingTheReputationOfFairfaxCounty

 

TooLittleTooLateOrTheWrongThingEntirely

ScheduleAndOtherAbuse

20080118BlogEntry

PatrickSnow

Summer2007WebsiteStatusEmail

 

Peer-Program-Chart-Page2

Peer Program Chart

 

David O'Brien Memorial

OOOFC

 

StarTrek

positive

vacation

We

 

SameBatChannelSameBatStation

DisOrganizing

union

MarchMadness

 

JerrySpeak

 

BFLHOpeningGroupPhotoBehindTheScenes

BrainFoundation

 

snookered

 

Recovery Jobs

Recovery

 

Judi

LiveInInterestingTimes

Ides of March

 

Interactive Website

 

Empowered for a Change

 

DearSideBarEtAl

 

Our Journey Experiences

eecummings

Conference photography, How NOT to Do It

MargePiercy

 

WikiDiscussion

 

wiki training

CommitteeOfTheWhole

 

RRWG

Privacy

 

Proposal

 

Disclaimer

Herding Turtles report

 

CWC

Judi Chamberlin

 

CWCResignationLetter

CWC Opening

 

MIAW2006

Figuring it out

PeerProgramChart

Drop In History Timeline Notes

PeerChart

OPFC History

 

AcceptableUsePolicy

OPFC

mh resources f shtml

About PeerConf1

PeerConf1

 

RRWG Position Description

 

Memorial Pages

 

grief resources

Fairfax County's grief counselor

Hospice and Havens

 

Improv song

artwork

 

David Mangano's Ombudsman presentation slides

Article Repository

 

Conclusion

 

Two students kill other students and becomes

the model for other shootings in schools like

Western Fairfax County and later from the same

High School, VA Tech.

 

"Can't we all [just] get along?" as Rodney King

stated probably describes it best... 

 

And these people had their freedom,

were probably not subjected to broom handles

up the ass, by providers/ supposed care takers

in mental hospitals, and the other sick types of things

that go on behind locked wards...

 

Personally, I am against violence,

my weapon of choice has been the pen/ keyboard

and 'the truth shall set you free' but I'm not sure how that

is interpretted...  Literal interpretations by fundamentalists

of any religion or someone misinterpretting what I'm writing

because psychotic, or whatever, so maybe I should just

write nice and skip all the negative stuff, just say nice

things and everything will work out fine.  Be the good

little consumer/survivor/ex-patient and say what

the funders want said, basically a lobotomy...

 

That would not be recovery for me.  Not that everyone

needs to hear my uncensored thoughts on every

topic imaginable, replacing therapy that is not available

to me in the forms I need, since providers are control

freaks and most are haters of the people they should

be caring for, at least in my experience with this project.

 

Money is at stake, more than ever with the budget

cuts, maybe stimulus money makes it better, but

people's jobs are being lost, and maybe providers

learn 'what it's like' as the Everlast song goes...

 

Still not violence, there is enough in the world,

don't add to it.  Don't accept illegal treatment,

harrassmment and ridicule, but use legal means

instead of violence.  Words work, or at least

they should, when used by a system of MH

or justice that is fair and just, though access

to legal services are about as limited as

access to real mh care...

 

Wonder if lawyers, obama or others could

make it rain for the homeless like it is outside,

when, while 'blessed' to have housing

most people with a car, and enough sleep

to safely drive it, insurance, gas money and

the time to enjoy anything, would probably

be going out to socialize at church, for

fellowship or just do errands, instead of stuck

in writing/ whining/ venting/ or doing literary

self therapy/ journaling like this...

 

 

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Page History

20090503 Jerry

  • Jerry created this page to briefly describe a booktv.org interview with the author
  •  but went on all sorts of tangents..

 

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