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EKENH9ActionCamera2017

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Introduction/Definition/etc

A Chinese copy of the GoPro,

it seems, including packaging,

but some twists, 4k-ish resolution,

mounts claimed to be GoPro compatible

(in other's reviews) but didn't work on the

chestie mount, for me, and some other

issues like Location required for the app,

with wifi, no BlueTooth, and the other

H9 models:

R Remote

SE inexpensive version,

plus chipset differences,

reports of knockoffs/imitations of the EKENs,

plus firmware bricking and other stuff,

like SJCAM or similar battery compatibility,

(only 1050 mAH, but another included in

my packaging, a wall brick mentioned but

missing though) and other stuff

to be considered...

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Well, technology advances,

the GoPro empire, likely started a lot of all

this action camera stuff (I have 2 of those

Hero now considered 1's, it's up to 6 now,

and showing their ages with 3D case going,

latch half broken using rubber bands,

chestie basically used up, bra like stretchiness

in the elastic, and other problems of years of

almost daily use, only replaced once in 5-7 years

now, difficult to find replacements, eBay,

and other problems between ~$40

and $200 or so for the classic 3D case,

before the higher priced thru plugs, rumored

only two of the six models would even do 3D,

I never really did, didn't fit menus on the netbook's

small screens of the time, and other problems,

of storage, and so many coded settings

(decoded somewhat by the LCD backpack),

etc...

At ~$40 the H9 was worth considering,

and tried one, for a day or so, and went

back for a second, likely a sale price

saving a bit, as even the same models

had different prices, maybe the different

chipsets, as the sales guy hanging

around the second visit, mentioned

the different sku or similar numbers,

one tagged with MicroCenter, the other

just on the box, and I allowed him

to add his commission tag

(no real harm to me, and not entirely

obnoxious like some sales and cashier

people there...)

Ran it for a parts of a day,

the battery went out in about an hour

of heavy use, so I rigged up an auxiliary

power brick to the bar end of the

bicycle and was able to run it

on the way back, depleting both

battery and brick, about the time

I finished 35 or so miles, the way

back was set on 3 still bursts,

sampling the intersections, and

anything different and/or interesting,

but mostly forward, even moving

the mount, not a pan and zoom option,

as it's basically feels like the new

camera would fall off the mount

each time I adjust it, right or left

locking screw keeping it on,

especially while underway,

stopping several times

even on roads, with traffic,

to adjust, tighten

and make it face the direction,

mostly forward, that I intend...

I did turn the bike handlebars

sideways a few times, when stopped

like for scenery, at a lake, etc...

but nowhere near as easy

as wearing the GoPro Chesty with

the 3D so still bringing the wearing on

(biker flies off bike, news at 11, see

the footage, from bike and

biker perspectives... /snark),

though powering on the GoPro3D

giving display of --- or 000

(no files found when Not a new card)

pulling the battery likely (sp?) creates

another file directory non 3D L or R,

just GOPROnnn or similar pattern)

instead of finding the files and

numbers usually 999 and

whatever settings still, video, battery,

and whatever else is shown on the

GoPro Hero1's LCD front...

(EKEN H9 has No LCD on the front,

other models do, but a display on

back, and coloured LEDs

(front Blue?) not just GoPro Hero1 Red,

except H9 top...))))

The H9 controls, I'm still learning,

not entirely complicated, four? buttons

instead of GoPro's 2,

side up and down (one turns on WiFi)

and used for cycling thru menus and

in playback mode,

power and mode on the same front button

and shutter on top...

I bought the first H9 camera on Friday,

carry the new toy(ish) back un opened

thinking I'd need to take some time

with it, learn some overnight,

try early Saturday AM,

batteries mostly charged

(fabric/tampon? like tab to pull out),

new stuff to try, and learn setting up

available mounts, this time on the

handlebar / bar ends, other (non) options

include mixtures of tape on

helmet like mounts GoPro like three (3) to

two (2) prong screw in and other

short straps, etc, som are clips others

screw in 2-3 prongs even the

packaging case top might be Dremeled

to use as an extra mount option,

admittedly hacked packaging,

big suction cup like entire box top

size to make another spare,

one of the reasons for buying

a second H9 was for mounts

(and extra batteries)

for a second bicycle,

though motorcycle, if/when I get

back to that, and PedalCart and other

options (petCam?) and other stuff,

robotCam? to consider down the road,

as they say...

Searching the InterWebs, found some

on the H9 and other stuff, that seems

unreliable to maybe even competitive FUD,

a FaceBook EKEN Bricked Users Group

and links to ftp.EKEN.com or similar

website, and got a blank, maybe web

site down/ non existent for some stuff,

the FTP one a privileged, and can't

get files, some psuedo (sp?) technical

made easy type stuff, with alternating

chipset and other information,

making me wonder the credibility

of the author and site, but not a

lot else, like the ZTEMagestyProLTE2017

buy Chinese, you're screwed dude,

type mentality, not a lot of support

out there, but at $40 instead of

originally $400 for Hero 1's,

i guess saving and knockoffs

aren't entirely free (allusion to

Freedom's Not Free? on

12/7 Pearl Harbour Day?)...

Might be worth the risk, YMMV,

don't quote me, you might not

care about required Location broadcast

to foreign countries, over open WiFi,

etc, but others of us might have a

problem with that... So maybe use

the device but not the app?

Or try something else?

Similar required Location issues to

beurerDevices2017 and

not exactly anonymized

as the smart phone go back

to a Google or Apple ID account,

so not just a web address,

internet IP... But Identity,

likely trackers,

and other privacy problems...

Like discount cards, and surveys,

privacy may matter, say I see

a live deer along the trails/ and don't

want to log where that is,

much less broadcast it,

possibly saving the deer from nosy hunters,

and other privacy say of sources,

may be a problem, even without the

international aspect of it...

Time stamping is available and

I'm using it, for time of travel,

and could possibly be interpolated,

where, and when, therefore whom,

say strangers on the trail, and

sprayed, further stalked as has

happened recently and/or attacked...

A general description from higher

resolution and might be able to

match with someone else's

and/or traffic cams, game cams, etc

law / park enforcement, and/or

tracking, for safety, and security,

two difficult things to discuss

even as the gun lobby is in arms

about new legislation, like everyone

wants weapons for XMas,

a rite of passage maybe for some,

but in the city, where hunting options

are limited, likely gang violence,

stick ups, murder suicides, etc

and not protected from that much either,

'those who wear badges also

burn crosses', or similar HipHop?

lyrics...

Even the Olympics are getting press,

Russia not having a team, under

the Olympics flag, as thought,

at first, that tyrant, Putin was assassinated,

but likely more of a rules technicality

but foreshadows Hitler and Olympics

before a World War (1 or 2?) type stuff,

and all starting by summer time...

Anniversary of Pearl Harbour coming

up (12/7) and current North Korean

nuclear & ICBM testing conflict

rather at least rhetoric is heated...

Anyways, journalism, accessibility (sp?)

and hobby use, among others

geeking out on stuff, there is a

newer 4k Raspberry Pi like device,

which as RPi3 running

Chromium on Raspbian stretch,

goes into oblivion, just trying to

upload large or many files at once,

thinking use a dedicated low end

device on hard wire, and/or wifi

to upload, say overnight, but cannot

leave unattended, had to batch up

only 20 jpgs at a time,

lest it go Page Unresponsive,

or just go out and stop displaying stuff,

even the gkrellm, and screen updates

stopping, forcing only option of a

hard power restart (or wait hours?),

risking bad shutdown and file system

corruption on the OS SD card,

and/or the camera memory card,

MicroSDs for RPi3 and H9,

where Hero1 was SD, the copy

of that form factor was smaller,

buying MicroSD with an adapter

the better of two worlds,

use in either, and you can

write protect notch/switch

with the adapter/sled,

no way with MicroSD, afaict,

YMMV...

So ran out the memory card

in first full day with the H9,

even with full speed/resolution

on the first hour, and still bursts

on the way back, three (3) or so

hours of commuting,

and some use, not stopping for

reading the manual nor even

looked for the extra battery

(wasn't packed, forgot it,

early am departure, new

mount, use patterns, trying to get

sunrise, dog ate my homework

like excuses, etc...)

So a license plate at a distance

with 4k-ish interpolated,

might be more possible,

given certain conditions of

light, angles, etc, and street signs,

store hours, etc more mundane

uses, and just clarity, the trail/

road, missing parts, tools, sockets,

adapters, screws, glass, other debris,

etc while bouncing around,

some vibration noticed

(higher end models have Image Stabilization),

but the mount get some

front shock on a mountain bike

gets some other, the wedge rubbery

gripper (shim?) on the inside of the

handlebar/tube mount helps, afaict,

compressible locking nuts might help

in keeping it tight, washers, neoprene,

and other adjustments needed,

a pan and tilt option, not just straight

ahead for hours (BORING!) but the

handlebar turns some, into where

I'm intending on going, perhaps a

less dizzy feeling than helmet mount,

and I already have a headlight up there,

and bashed that into almost broken state

with the tree branches, etc over

the 9ish years now since the Obama

inauguration (sp?)/ purchase

timeframe, but I digress...

Using them will take some time

and further research and learning...

I would however caution novices

and seemingly seasoned bikers

and camera people, it takes some

getting used to, and becoming habit,

instead of a distraction, like car

crashes based on people fiddling

with radios, just set it to record,

even as starting out, and don't

mess with it, while underway,

and see later what you got,

or didn't got, by pulling over,

or have problems similar to

texting whiled driving,

as the display is something you

might be tempted to watch

when your attention needs to

be on the real world around

you, similar to headphone users

and walking/ biking/ driving,

an infraction, iirc...

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What's Missing?

Lots, technical info,

availability, some webviews

said 6 available, restocking

and 1 turned into a few actually

there, and Rockville, MD store,

while far away for some

was not beyond possible for

early RPi limits, etc...

Firmware updates,

reliable sources of technical

info, comparisons that match,

H9 model seems to have

different meanings, besides

finding the R remote model,

one writeup says you cannot buy

just a remote add on later, and

reported somewhere in the

reading(s), perhaps paired

must match to the device

and find an R box,

which I can not, at this point,

in store only, not online...

I wonder about creating a remote

and linking multiple devices

over a bicycle/motorcycle/etc

setup with a dedicated recording

device with (SSD?) harddrive

for saving the "action" though

largely mundane, hoping to

eventually try moto track use

again in the future, and/or development

of the sidecar/trailer...

I am missing the power transformer

in the first one, not sure, haven't

opened box number 2 yet...

The bottom of the box is not taped,

so maybe someone going into the

new one, IDK... Better sealed

(shrinkwrapped?) packaging

instead of just a non scratchy

type messy covering over the

top clear plastic where the device

hides/is on display, GoPro style...

One photo had an international

plug shown, maybe different

in the US models? There is

an EKEN USA listed, somewhere,

but don't know much about, yet,

if ever...

What Can Be Found?

Much need for higher speed

and capacity uploads,

memory max size is 64Gig,

I haven't tried that yet,

cannot afford to right now,

two cameras and holidays,

limited disabled resources,

etc...

at $10 first household limits

(per visit) for 32 Gig MicroSD

with adapter, IPSG house

brand? Latest circular/flyer

shows the same SKU number

both ways, one limited, one not...

The house brand runs the RPi3

so far, others over the years had

failed and lost the OS and

whatever data, then no way of

loading and making another OS

(maybe Live or rescue CD?),

down on spares, laptops and

netbooks showing their ages too

etc...

What Can Not Be Found?

see above/elsewhere

How To Analyze?

Lenses

lots of different angles on these things

and issues brought up about them,

their use, manufacture, etc...

distributor

support channels

user groups

buyers protections

consumer affairs

users

technical and not so technical

elderly

gifting possibilities

I'm not in a position to

give gifts, but others might be able to,

buyer beware, and other standard

precautions, as usual...

it might work out for me, but my

use cases, having already had GoPros

may be different, and like Psych, Meds,

etc, your reactions may be different,

as different people, and needs/wants/

limitation, environments, resources, etc

Assumptions

Photography is good...

Their marketing mentions beauty,

but not something I might know

about, survival and gritty stuff,

raod debris left behind from accidents,

police presence, and roadkill,

also highly likely, than a sunrise/set

in Florida and other very rare

serene occurrences, at least for me...

Privacy is not a concern,

trail and road use is public space

so somehow rather unlimited,

between some journalism background,

admittedly homeless paper,

and blogging, generally not targeting

individuals, just accessiblity,

scenery, my safety

and my security...

Deer have protections from harm

besides just a biker along the trail(s)

and roads and blogging/ drivel,

laws, other witnesses, green lobby,

etc...

Time Limits

Like Compact Flash the

SD and other standards

will likely go old eventually,

memory sizes are fairly

Moores' Law one thing,

(maybe think 64Gig is

the new 32Gig of yesterday's

cameras?) but standards

eventually go too (HD to Blueray?)...

Cases wear out, cards decay,

contacts corrode, sweat into even

water proof cases, etc, switches

and plugs get a lot of use..

That's without out in action/ real life:

dropping, theft and loss..

Reports of Overheating and bricking

are/is maybe overblown FUD,

unless it happens to you...

Quality control is a good thing,

sample size among models

and submodels/chipsets wouldn't

hurt either...

Currently

Sample size =1, up to 3 maybe...

plus whatever I hear from others,

eventually, if ever...

Conclusion

Summary of experience or similar

More to learn and try...

Eats memory cards quickly,

uploading large files not currently

possible, even Google gets $$$

by higher res, as drive space is

quickly gone, if even take the time

to upload all of it, not just samples,

a display on the device, allows

limited live and previewing what's

captured, admittedly in 2 inch or so

screen size, skippy and blaring

speaker, as brakes up front

loud, stopping and noise

signals slowing, other non

driving issues of controls and learing

a top LED red, is at an angle,

peering above easier than

front GoPro red light,

but still not easy,

adjusting the seconds before

power is saved on display,

and when it's on and when it's

off, finding not off when I thought,

maybe turns on the display and again

for turning recording off...

Discussion

A place for feedback on the page presented

What is acceptable use?

What rules are there of recording/filming others?

In public places, along roads/ trails,

in private location(s)?

Is the blurring out faces technology

available for regular users use?

Not just Google StreetView?

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What's Missing?

What Can Be Found?

What Can Not Be Found?

How To Analyze?

Lenses

distributor

support channels

user groups

buyers protections

consumer affairs

users

technical and not so technical

elderly

gifting possibilities

Assumptions

Time Limits

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other reviewers

packaging typos

Conclusion

Discussion

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