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FAADOTDroneRegistrationSiteUp2015

Page history last edited by jerry 8 years, 3 months ago

FAADOTDroneRegistrationSiteUp2015

 


 

Introduction/Definition/etc

 

A little ahead of the usual guberment schedule, reading not behind, but not live either (2015/12/21), yet,

the FAA/DOT put up a registration site for your drones, pay $5 (sent back until Jan 20th (2016/01/20)),

get bird numbers, and read regs, fun...

 

Body

 

ThouShaltRegister

 

http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/

 

Read the regs, before you fly, see if you need to register, based on:

  1. the bird size (> 250 g, <~55 lbs registering This Way),
  2.  expected use (recreational/business/terrorist/anarchist/religious freedom/civil rights protest/HollyWood$, MountRushMoreBoogerMonitor, etc),
  3. pilot information (age, citizenship, permanent resident, DroneAddictsAnonymous, convicted felon, witness protection/protective order,
  4. email, physical address, mailing address, etc),
  5. etc
  6. current interpretation of the FAQ/regs... (minor factor(s)?: case law?)

 

Not sure how long that registration takes yet (remind anyone of ObamaCare/ACA / IRS Deadline/ OLPC/ RPi website peak load problems?),

Registration FAQ says immediate (emailed), can show electronically, and don't need to print.

You might even be able to register, then buy your first/additional drone, mark the bird (permanent marker, etching, inside battery compartment, etc), then fly, idk... 

 

Weighing the bird might be necessary, or buy butter (FAQ says 2 sticks of butter is about 1/2 pound...) and MacGyver up a balance/scale, the eyes of justice are blind, thinking it might become like wrestling and boxing weight classes/ electronics like bike racing anorexics...

Using sticks of butter is messy pork like guberment waste, ask mom(s/z)... /CookingIdiotsAnonymousInSummers

Or do as a HoneyDo before your return home, if you want bail possibilities...  /Snark

 

Keep in mind you probably need to charge the batteries... 

 

Shipped storage of LiPos is probably less than full, and over/under problems exist with them...

 

Read the instructions, this goes in the air, not just on/under a table somewhere, like a desktop computer, laptop, notebook, game console or in your pocket like a smartphone...

 

 

B4UFly App Beta

 

Only on Apple iOS (requires cell/dataplan? or wifi only), but Android promised, will see what is said...

How about a web based app also/instead?

 

Give app free with Drone registration?

Or additional costs?

Oh, BTW, buy our maps, shipping extra, no Amazon drones will not deliver, take out...

 

 

https://www.faa.gov/news/updates/?newsId=83608

 

http://www.faa.gov/uas/b4ufly/

 

http://www.engadget.com/2015/08/28/faa-b4ufly-drone-safety-app-beta/

 

http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-drone-concept-takes-flight-in-designers-imagination/

 

 

Links

 

 

FAA

 

http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/

 

http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/faqs/#mou

 

http://www.faa.gov/uas/publications/model_aircraft_operators/

 

http://www.regulations.gov/#!submitComment;D=FAA-2014-0396-0781

 

http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certification/aircraft_registry/releasable_aircraft_download/

 

https://www.faa.gov/news/updates/?newsId=83608

 

http://knowbeforeyoufly.org/

 

 

B4UFly

 

http://www.faa.gov/uas/b4ufly/

 

http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-drone-concept-takes-flight-in-designers-imagination/

 

http://www.engadget.com/2015/08/28/faa-b4ufly-drone-safety-app-beta/

 

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2408569&page=2

 

No WikiPedia exists, yet, for B4UFly, probably because only 1k people have had access to it, while 400k+ drones are probably sold in the US this holiday season...

 

Section 333

 

http://www.faa.gov/uas/legislative_programs/section_333/

 

http://www.faa.gov/uas/legislative_programs/section_333/how_to_file_a_petition/

 

 

NPR.org

 

http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2015/11/23/456699696/5-things-to-know-faa-task-force-recommends-a-drone-registry

 

http://www.npr.org/2015/12/14/459718303/faa-announces-new-registration-guidelines-for-drones

 

 

Misc

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Aviation_Administration

(Part of US Dept Of Transportation)

 

http://wsls.com/2015/12/14/sen-warner-comments-on-dot-drone-regulations/

 

http://techcrunch.com/2015/12/14/get-ready-to-register-your-drone-with-the-faa-on-december-21/#.u8a0ekq:sak4

 

http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/12/14/faa-sets-out-official-drone-regulations-with-feb-19-registration-deadline

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGyver

or any bend over and let others in type obscene website, for the butter reference, maybe SouthPark character Butters like?

 

 

Controversy

  

Illegal Use(s)

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/04/us/prison-yard-drone-drugs-ohio/

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Virginia

 

DC FRZ

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/innovations/wp/2015/01/30/the-case-for-not-banning-drone-flights-in-the-washington-d-c-area/

 

https://www.faa.gov/uas/no_drone_zone/dc/

 

http://time.com/88772/drones-washington-dc/

 

http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_0_8326.html

 

Legal Arguments/ Orthogonal?

 

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/328/256/case.html

U.S. v. Causby about use of airspace above private land, Supreme Court  328 U.S. 256, 1946...

 

Permanently Grounded

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodo

 

 

 

Conclusion

 

Summary of experience or similar

 

For $5 you might be able to buy a crashed drone, none of mine, but some might sell cheap, instead of going to eWaste...

Percentage wise, it is a lot of money for a ~$30 toy drone, but might be exempt based on size,

given the fee is the same as big expensive planes, plus need the credit/debit card to verify identity...

Says fairly immediate refund, maybe during certain early times of the registration process, if the website and associated payment processing system(s) works as planned?...

 

There is an alternative paper based registration process, but not much said about it...

Include the form / link in the drone sales/ receipts? 

Free registration with purchase type stuff?

Proof of registration gets you free extra drone props/ sticker sets?

But privacy problems with that, imnsho...

Or just tax it instead of registration(s)?

Identity of the operator seems to be important, pilot like number, possibly on many/an unlimited number of birds...

 

A lot of the small toy like drones, less than 1/4 kg total weight, you don't need to register, and other issues, read the boring site, see what you have to do, IANAL, and you are not an idiot, at least in that, notice shift o' responsibility...

 

Or start flaming them online, government comment time is now/soon, so tell the little ducklings/party parrots what they do with your time/ info/taxes, might effect their re-election(s)?

 

 

Discussion

 

A place for feedback on the page presented

 

Why register?

 

Why Not Register?

 

Does Big/Little Brother really need this information?

What does FAA/DOT do with the info?

Besides collect fees?

 

When will the B4UFly app be available?  Concurrently with registration site live? 2015/12/21 EDT/Zulu?

Why not web based B4UFly?

 

If numbers are issued serially, wonder what number One/ uno, 007, etc go for?  Dude, I will give you $7 for that 007 registration number...  You didn't pay anything, got it refunded, etc, why can't I have the kewl number(s)?  Is it a hash of the SSN/DL#, address?  GeoLocated FAA Map number... 

Recycled old draft cards?

 

Will Obama register DroneOne, and learn to fly instead of playing basketball to settle disputes like gentlemen/ladies?

How about the FirstLady?  DroneOnePeriodOne?

Rank birth order children?

Some family tree numbering system for remaining parents/uncles/aunts/cousins/etc?

 

What about Biden doing DroneTwo?

DroneTwoPeriodOne allowed to fly on NVCC Alexandria campus, or only in the English Department Building...?

 

... and succession of little PoliSci like kids along the succession lineage for numbering/ordering like license plates of Congress/State/Embassies/etc??

 

Will Obama get an exemption for flying on White/Black House grounds?

  Within the FRZ?...

 At Camp David, etc? 

Or need to go overseas/ on vacay to fly?

 

White House Launch party?

  Executive order included with invite? 

BYODrone/UAS/MultiRotor, No GyroCopters nor radio frequency jamming allowed... 

RSVP and mock Pilot's License provided as a confirmation number...

 

Or somewhere in the bowels of the Executive Mansion, say indoor basketball court/ pool area? 

Multitask the pool specially drained for skateboarders, then drone flights, robot climb challenges, geekfests, etc...

Having seen the movie, The Butler recently, not sure the antiques would stand up to the inexperienced flying, but around inauguration Jan 21, 2017/etc next year+... 

Always wanted a live multi-rotor virtual tour of the building(s), cheaper than some security personnel,

talk about being a fly on the wall...  (see The Butler fly in The Oval Office & Animals movies' hospital food/bug scenes)

 

With a larger more expensive drone, perhaps it gets the errant UAS returned, if lost?

Might save that ~$500 investment if up in a tree and the local fire department has to rescue it with ladders/fishing poles/etc, like a cat? 

Minus fees/penalties/court costs/water damage/pruning costs, old birds nests/trying to rescue younger siblings' paper airplane/holiday balloon(s), trash bags swept up in the wind, etc left up there, etc...

 

If downed in a neighbor's yard, not eaten/chewed by their dog(s)/cats/kids/ pet monkey/alligator/python/parrot/bison/goat/etc...

 

In a state where some guns are not required to be registered, afaict, why do essentially "toy$z"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Virginia

 

Do non lethal beanbag guns or nerf guns or god forbid super soakers (extra crispy/fries?) help retrieve drones too?

How accurate are they?

Damages to a drone?

Safety of catching them?

Catchers mitt/dog catchers net?

With really sensitive data/ a jumper's emergency landing bag?

 

Frequency and seriousness of falls increase with the new reg?  Must be registered, so build in a self destruct feature, in case of capture, so that not fall in underage/enemy (=sibling/OpFor?) hands?

 

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