MetaMobilityDevices2019
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SituationalAssessmentTemplate2017
Introduction/Definition/etc
Looking at Shared Mobility Devices
aka BikeShare, eBikes, eScooters,
etc...
in the Warshington, DC metro area,
especially Virginia, with mention of others...
It's a wave/ trend/ kewl thing to do,
and other jurisdictions/ countries
are starting to, or way ahead of us,
while some places like Paris?
dumped them in the river
when first introduced, rejecting
and others tout it as the next
big thing in transit, visiting
tourists, and others supposedly
can share bikes, though utility,
kids, disabled, poor.
and many major obstacles
still exist to wide spread adoption,
instead of just try it once or twice,
and reject, due to cost, policies,
inoperable, and just plain targeting
by others...
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On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 3:31 AM DancesWithCars <danceswithcars@gmail.com wrote:
Arlington, Virginia, USA is still in a pilot of dockless eScooters with several who have them around. They paid a fee to be considered and number limited with payment. Competing companies. Some parking like spaces (paint spray on pavement) of dockless near MetroRail stations recently announced.
Not sure the rest of the DC area jurisdictions, but Arlington claims to be forward thinking. Arlington adopted bikeshare before much larger Fairfax County ~26? square miles, vs ~700 or so,...). I've seen several other companies wandering thru towards DC and Maryland going towards Baltimore. University of Maryland iirc, incorporated towns/cities, etc. Not sure how one joins many and gets across town with so many competing, but Monopoly abuse seemed bad too...
I was a member of predicessor bikeshares when DC had one pilot when offered to lower income, but so on & off it was very frustrating bordering upon cruel... CaBi now has some eBikes, but I've not tried them, as membership mysteriously disappeared again...
WABA did a comparison of bikeshares a while back, time, cost, process to checkout / race type thing.
Sorry no links handy.
Like Paris, I think some are ready to chuck the shares & dockless scooters in the river or something...
The eScooters I've seen many places where i would not want them, not allowed and some destroyed/broken and in the way/blocking streets and sidewalks. Wearing helmets and sticking to rules of where they are allowed (onstreet with cars, Not in parks, rules/laws largely ignored like skateboards) as they are being adopted seems to be one of the purpose(s) of the pilot besides a runoff among competing vendors, imnsho...
Full disclosure: I bought a cheap off brand small folding eBike about a year ago, using disabled status pushing the limits of access and acceptability as a wheel chair equivalent, informally. I blogged about it, and CaBi crap, if you call it writing, more like public complaining on
NoVAPeers.pbworks.com
I've seen articles (likely from here?) of mountains of stored and excess bikeshares in China? and one local Coop (VeloCity with at least one person posting on here, Ron?) sold off some that withdrew from the DC market, ofo iirc.
/EndBrainDump
I may take my drivel here, edit/cleanup, find links and put up on NoVAPeers.pbworks.com
Personal energy dependent.
Modified Text
Arlington, Virginia, USA is still in a pilot
(unknown end date, but seasons end?)
of dockless eScooters
with several who have them around.
The competing companies
paid a fee to be considered and
number limited with payment.
Some parking like spaces
(paint sprayed on pavement)
of assorted dockless icons
near MetroRail stations
recently announced.
Not sure the rest of the DC
area jurisdictions,
but Arlington claims to be
forward thinking.
Arlington adopted bikeshare
before much larger
Fairfax County
~26? square miles, vs ~700 or so...).
though after DC...
I've seen several other companies
wandering thru towards DC and
Maryland going towards Baltimore.
University of Maryland iirc,
incorporated towns/cities, etc.
And Baltimore had docked
rental eBikes
before CaBi...
Not sure how one joins many
and gets across town
with so many competing,
but Monopoly abuse
seemed bad too...
I was a member of predecessor
bikeshare when DC had one pilot
(SmartBike?)
and when offered to lower income,
i joined again, but so on & off
it was very frustrating
bordering upon cruel...
CaBi now has some eBikes,
but I've not tried them,
as membership mysteriously
disappeared again...
WABA did a comparison of
bikeshares a while back, time, cost,
process to checkout / race type thing.
Sorry no links handy.
Like Paris, I think some are ready to
chuck the shares & dockless scooters
in the river or something...
Maybe the administrators and associated
parties with them, afaict...
The eScooters I've seen many places
where i would not want them,
not allowed and some destroyed/broken,
many left on, turned over, and abandoned,
and in the way/blocking streets and sidewalks.
Wearing helmets and sticking to rules of
where they are allowed (onstreet with cars,
Not in parks, rules/laws largely ignored
like skateboards) as they are being adopted
seems to be one of the purpose(s) of the
pilot besides a runoff among competing vendors,
imnsho...
Full disclosure: I bought a cheap
off brand small folding eBike
(250 Watts) about a year ago,
using disabled status
pushing the limits of access
and acceptability as a
wheel chair equivalent, informally.
I blogged about it, and CaBi crap,
if you call it writing, more like public
I've seen articles (likely from world wide bike
collectives TheThinkTank list) of mountains
of stored and excess bikeshares in China?
and one local Coop (VeloCity with at least
one person posting on here, Ron?)
sold off some that withdrew
from the DC market, OFO iirc.
/EndBrainDump
I may take my drivel here,
edit/cleanup, find links and
put up on NoVAPeers.pbworks.com
Personal energy dependent.
What's Missing?
Personal experience using the
eScooters and competing devices,
as takes a call phone that is contracted
not prepaid, and money, which is
in short supply...
What Can Be Found?
many shared mobility devices littering
edges of sidewalks, turned over
and lights going, abandoned
on trail areas, and generally
a nuisance...
What Can Not Be Found?
easy (subsidized/ sliding scale)
access for the poor,
and disabled,
apparently not written into contracts
like with Housing and eventually docked
devices...
How To Analyze?
Lenses
Companies
We can make money,
need to dominate the market
and win the contract...
Teens
They say you have to have a license
to rent them, can't we just get
mom and dad to buy us one?
Maybe Grandma/GrandPa/
Aunts/Uncles will help...
They will probably say
what are my grades?
get a job, actually do
my chores/ homework
and use allowance for it,
but I don't think that's going
to work, I've got x,y,z coming
up and not enough...
PreTeen
That's kewl,
Let me try
Mom!
He won't share...
General non riding public
can i just throw it in the trash
or recycling? It's littering my
sidewalk, i need to mow/
blow the leaves and snow is coming,
do you know what happens
when snow plows and blowers
hit a charged battery?
Law Enforcement
Someone's going to die
on those things,
nobody is taking the laws
seriously, they are in with
things weighing tons
and they have such small
wheels, are going to go
head first into something
with potholes, curbs, and normal
tree root bumps being dangerous...
I don't even have good laws
to cite people with,
and case law/ my colleagues
are not getting much convictions,
we are told to take the kids
and devices to the parents
but there must be a better
way...
Can't i just shoot it?
How about immobilize
(taze) it?
Environmentalists
They are all competing
and littering our parks,
noisy little bastards
scared my deer, birds,
dog, and even the cat
won't have anything to
do with them...
We should outlaw them,
session is coming up,
wonder who could
be the patron...
Government
Newish device class,
and shared, so companies
trying to lobby and get contracts,
lock in on theirs being the only
one, largely the same, but
competition, unlike cable companies,
and other problems...
Parking is scarce in urban areas,
some of these are smaller,
and lighter, if a license is required
to operate/ check out then
only people who know the rules of
the road would be allowed,
and sanity might happen,
above my pay grade...
Pass the buck,
will see, nobody is going
to make a decision,
we had to do something,
i hope nobody gets hurt/
killed as VisionZero would
apply to them too...
I better get my resume
together, between that
and the shutdown,
it's getting bad->worse
around here...
I wonder what Amazon
is doing with/about them...
Maybe use to patrol the
border...
Nah, too dangerous...
I've got a meeting anyways,
have to put this on the back
burner, for now...
Assumptions
Biking and innovation are good,
right?
Rentals being rentals, are problems,
and sharing without attendants?
Who and how do they check them
over?
Charging done by some customers
who earn money/time on them,
companies also recharge,
and wonder why they don't have
solar panels, on the pads, they could
charge themselves sitting out in the sun,
well, price point, maybe gen2.0...
Time Limits
Seasonal limits
as snow starts?
I've not seen the time
limit for the Arlington
competitive pilot,
or not handy...
Alexandria just announced
(with Lime) and are going to limit
at the end who can operate
in their jurisdiction...
I'm not in DC much,
but had first noticed dockless
and eBikes rentals,
though not the resources to
try them, been following
and spotting them,
in case i ever do...
CaBi added a Plus
or Premium eBike to their
fleet, and seen some around,
mostly I just get pictures,
and move on, especially
after CaBisCrap2017
StrandedAgain2017
and
CaBiWalker2017
and
FauxCritMass2018 ...
Links
(reverse chronologically,
until tired)
ActiveTransitForPECredit2019
AFBR2018
KGMR2018
(find K Garvey Century somewhere here?
search not finding it...
yet, try some other way, chronologically?)
YouthBikeSummit2017
eBikeCheating2017
RideGenesisH1CommuterEBike2017
StrandedAgain2017
MoreBikeCrap2017
CaBisCrap2017
IsBikingStillFun2016
AmbushBaitBike2016
PedalCartAlternatives2016
PedalCarts2015
BikeBikeHosting2015
BikersAndDrunks2015
...
ArlBAC20120507
some book reviews too
4WheelsBad2WheelsGood3WheelsMaybe
AroundTheWorldOnTwoWheelsByPeterZheutlin
BikeTechWheelBuilding
OneWetDyslexicsBikersExperienceAtTheNationalBookFestival
AfricanAmericansDon'tBike2011
DCtoRichmondBikeTour
and many more...
some old tour journals on
DancesWithCars.CrazyGuyOnABike.com
Government Links
Arlington
https://transportation.arlingtonva.us/scooters-and-dockless-bikeshare/
Alexandria
https://www.alexandriava.gov/tes/info/default.aspx?id=106050
recently announced pilot
DC
WaPo
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/in-the-move-toward-personal-mobility-devices-dcs-poorest-are-left-behind--again/2018/12/15/1f451100-f339-11e8-bc79-68604ed88993_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f50659d1d075
MaryLand
Montgomery County
Prince Georges County
BaltiMore
aka BMore
Elsewhere
(glean from TheThinkTank list?
or just refer to there?)
Conclusion
Summary of experience or similar
All the data, lookups
not in yet, and likely never will be...
But preliminary prejudging
based on no actual experience
on the eBike and eScooter
Rentals are that they are nuisance,
riders, likely dumping them whereEver/
WhenEver,
and irresponsible, like most thought
skateboarders (and bikers) were/are...
There is/was an opportunity to be
civil about it, but like Bikers,
to Car, Walkers/Pedestrians,
a few bad behaving have
ruined the reputation for the many,
and likely when in the pilot feedback,
if not moderated, will be the end
of it, for all...
Discussion
A place for feedback on the page presented
Have you tried them?
Or too young?
Not a driver yet,
cannot afford,
parents/ etc won't let you,
and can not wait,
wonder if they will still be around
in years for me to try
when i get old/rich enough....
top speed?
safe enough at that speed,
not feel unstable,
or is that the goal?
What have you heard about them?
Anyone you know own one,
instead of shared?
What did they think of it?
Did you get to try it?
What's the cheapest
bestest (it exists, right?), etc
you have found?
What sources/ testing was used
to reach that conclusion?
Ever skateboarded?
How does the eScooter compare?
Ever get a ticket for it?
Hurt?
Wearing Pads/Gloves/Helmet???
How much?
From where?
and battery?
battery life?
charger?
Wheel replacement?
Missing parts?
Repair places?
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Page History
20190114 Jerry
- adding Link that was MR not BR...
- much more to do,
- but likely moved on
- Oh, Arlington's pilot started
- in October and runs for 8-9? months?
- so no summer trials...
- Heat, meltdown,
- used for cool non perspiring / sweating
- transit / travel,
- kids out of school, etc
- issues...
20190109 Jerry
- Jerry created this page to
- put some opinions on a page
- to refer to later
- collecting links
- and forming an informal meta analysis
- lots more to do,
- stay tuned, check back,
- eventually I'll just punt
- as good enough/ satisficing
- for my purposes,
- YMMV
- using myTempLateSitOnArseOldYear to
- make situations uniform across cases...
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