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OLPCUpdateSugarLabsOnRPi4in2021

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SituationalAssessmentTemplate2017

 


 

Introduction/Definition/etc

 

Following on off hand comments on

VeryDoubtFull2021

platonic

or unconditional love

ala AlaNotIntCon2018

ThereIsSomeThingWrongInWhoVille2019

going back through the years

OneLaptopPerChildoplcorg

with the original XO-1

Give1Get1 Program

buy one for a kid in a least developed

country, and get one sent to you,

around ThanksGiving time,

didn't take off as much as hoped,

economic downturn,

hand crank,

marketing with MIT Media Lab,

the MIT Way (similar but different

than the Arlington Way

more PR than reality, imnsho,

etc...)

 

OneLapTopPerChild OLPC hardware

is difficult to get, so if not in that original

and one following buy in, at 2x the price,

and then not updated, XO-2 through 4?

were Ministers of Education of a Country

buying in for all children of the country,

some South American countries did, iirc,

but around here more the NetBook revolution,

cheaper hardware, solid state drives,

instead of spinning disks,

with a target price of $100/ laptop,

maybe less than books in some places,

though college textbooks might be

that for one, and bulk/ country wide

volume purchasing, but it digress...

 

England's response with Acorn

previously was RaspberryPi

a single board computer (SBC),

and leaves choices of display,

keyboard, etc to others,

but far less sexy, for lack of a better

word hardware, the XO-1

folds up to protect itself,

for basically kid like abuse,

drop, carry to school,

hardly light weight at ~3 pounds

or so, and carry many say 10 XO-1

and you'd know it...

 

Anyways,

GeekingOutWithRaspberryPi2012

first RPi1 with Composite output

as not had HDMI at the time,

and other issues,

February 29th (Leap Year release,

signup/ wait list, limited quantities,

the selling web server was overloaded

and went down, i happened to be

sleep schedule impaired and

woke when the server went

back up in the middle of the night,

most "Normal" people went

to bed already/ gave up,

so waiting

WaitingForGodot

and

WaitingForGodAgain2010

...

 

at least one sent from England

likely had to track down the package

at a place in NorthEast?

DHL or similar warehouse to pickup,

and then buying more

 

some not published much about:

RPi2

PreTeenPatience2015

RPiZero

W wireless version

H headers soldered in/on already

used in GoogleAIYVoiceKit2017

GoogleAIYVision2018

 

RPi3in2016

RPiTouchScreenDisplay2018

 

and other stuff,

but this is just introduction...

More in Body below

 

 

Body

 

Original Text

 

So background,

components instead of all in one

Apple MacIntosh like FatMac

comically Banana9000

a Single Board Computer (SBC)

credit card size, but wires/plugs,

etc, and have to get Accessories:

 

though required,

to put together

the whole package sort of thing

to get it working,

 

while OLPC XO-1 is all together

and less inticed (sp?) to take apart,

odd stuff just opening the beast,

UncleCrazy on

wiki.laptop.org

under DancesWithCars

may have more,

and projects that had to be

community approved

to even get hardware

a Lending Library for short term

loans of hardware, a summer

few weeks with young relatives,

and other experiences with

OLPCLearningClub

meeting at the Career Center in

Arlington, a Governor's School , iirc,

Gallaudet University (a Deaf School)

in NorthEast DC

by the Farmers Market

and some HacDC ended up hosting

too, originally problems there led to

JerrySpaceIdea

to make one (later called MakerSpace)

friendly to disabled, poor, myself, etc...

3DPrinter2012

wasn't it

WeldingBasics2013

certainly wasn't.

and the disabled/ poor/

NotDeadYet saga continues...

 

So a use case for near term

(before an anniversary

RobotFest2015

RobotFest2016

RobotFest2017

NorthByNorthEast2018

 

WarthogsRUs2015

SubUrbanMade2015

NoVAMiniMakerFaire2016

 

NoVAMakerFaire2019

most happening by spring break(s),

mid term projects and keep busy

while at home a week or so,

at most....

 

Since we can't all

SpringBreak2013 ...

much less

Sturgis2013

etc...

 

and other commercial events

similar in the DIY culture,

Make Magazine likely went under,

so MakerFaires (tm elsewhere)

went the way of the dodo,

high prices, elitism,

exclusivity, etc may have something

to do with it, imnsho...

 

3DPrinter2012

had some more favorable stuff,

but limited parts, compatibility,

etc issues, far away,

travel at night, pre Reston

MetroRail stops, etc...

 

So ConVid19ContinuesIn2020

AbusesInTheNameOfViralEmergency2020

and CyberBullying2020

babysitting, child care at 12Step

and other meetings,

HippieClownCamp2011

AVeteransSonLaughsAndSpitsAtMe2011

etc...

 

plus applicability

to other uses, i'd carry something

WowWeeToys2017

TargettedWowWeeAccessories2017

around with me for waiting time,

and amuse myself,

show off robots, and interact with others,

think a socialization

and accessability aid,

like a golden retriever,

ServiceAnimalTraining2020

but less panting, shedding,

expensive,

don't have to walk,

can turn off and sleep unlike

StarterKid2018

etc...

 

Raspberry Pi 4

 

Given XO-1 is out of date,

while might be able to find,

some say for $50 on used sites,

used, and then can't find parts

and supplies for it,

if it even work(s)

there were kid repair shops

back in the day, one even locally,

but getting even batteries

LithiumFE (Iron) odd shapes,

bricks, the touchpad problems,

etc

built in clock batteries

in the devices

and the constant questions

What is that?

Why do you have it?

Are you a child/ R_?

Developmentally Disabled?

like wearing a bicycle helmet

without a bike,

or having child stuff when an

adult size/ age, raise flags,

and most don't know how to

integrate the cognitive dissonance...

 

Some of my adult interests were

bicycling, an eInk screen readable

in daylight most smart phones aren't

even that, the NokiaGo2019

is a modern example of eInk

in practical use, imnsho...

Solar charging for long term rides/

touring, dynohub plus solar

for self contained touring,

travel off grid, and other things

ComputingAcrossAmericaBook

geeky JerrySpaceIdea

development, never really happens

but publishing the ideas,

and futures may happen, man...

IHadADream2012

PolicingTheDream2012

...

DisAbledGlassCeiling2020

etc

 

Anyways OLPC branched off

SugarLabs, Walter Bender

when M$ tried putting WinBlow$

on XO-1 or so, made sure

that the Fedora Linux based

Sugar desktop and Activities

(like apps, on smartphones)

but Constructionist theory learning

Piaget, and others, you'd have to

be into that kind of educational

theory to get it,

i think of it as learn by doing,

not by lecture, more lab,

and Computers are a Science

whole degree programs have

Science, at their core,

but information Science

and other forms, exist,

beyond just MOUS

end user training learn clerk

typing and office administration

like LMEC's M$ grant stuff...

 

/back from Tangential? Rant

M$ Enters

SugarLabs makes it run on more

standard hardware,

Old IBMPC like stuff,

not just OLPC XO-1s

LiveCD then Sugar on a Stick/

USB...

 

So running Sugar on a Stick

(SoAS or similar)

LiveCD on a USB Stick,

seems to be recommended

since i spent much time with it,

it updates more often,

for security, etc, and

other forms exist,

a regular say older PC / laptop

could be repurposed

for running kid software,

say a hand me down,

with keyboard and mouse

and other options exist

 

Sugarizer

app on Android

runs on a webBrowser too,

MicroPython? or similar,

afaict, not looked into it,

but likely open source

and program code out there

to inspect.

FLOSS Software FreeDom(s)

you have the right to inspect

what you are running,

modify, if you put out the changes,

since they were  given to you freely

you give back freely

and other almost communist?

ideals of fair play,

starting perhaps with

Richard M. Stallman (RMS)

(GeekCode?

see book RebelCode?)

originally with a Xerox printer

that he was trying to get working

at MIT, and CopyRight/ Patent

etc, NonDisclosureAgreements

they wouldn't give MIT the source

code to change it, so

eventually became

FreeSoftWareFoundation (FSF)

compilers like GCC running on

DEC VAX hardware and could

be recompiled like Unix Source,

meanwhile Linus Torvalds created the

Linux Kernel and a whole

operating system POSIX

standard appeared around USENet?

UUCP?

back around 1993?

competing with Tennanbaum's

Minix

 

I was becoming suicidal/

homeless around then

and out of computers

 

 

Well, by 1998 or so

Apple G3 doing a thesis project

with Java and eventually

that hardware went down,

thousand or so $ down the drain,

Linux available and RedHat

Fedora being the free version

RedHat was a sponsor of OLPC

and Sugar ran on that,

the XO-1 had 802.11 S

meSh networking, sharing

a connection all to all,

like the handcrank

problems implementing,

as likely noisy high traffic

with all to all going beyond

a couple/ few machine

up to a classroom like environment

of 10-20+ and was dropped in

the XO-2+ but we couldn't get that

hardware when the G1G1 ran again

it was still the XO-1 a ThanksGiving later

NetBooks were out, and didn't have to buy

for someone else as well, and replaceable

and other options existed ASUS,

etc made netbooks, etc...

 

Sugar running on Fedora

and can download the packages

with dfm? used to be

some other package tool?

A Live CD / USB might be a way

of trying but lose all state

and start over each power down

unless save to hard drive/ SSD

and then have partitioning problems,

make space on the disk,

risk wiping out the entires operating

system already there, but it's M$

so no real loss to Linux Geeks/

Purists...

Staring from an additional

and older machine/ hand me down,

or scrap one found free/ freecycle

like hardware and bike learning

DroningOnAboutMultiRotors2015

DronesChart2015

fry (even winter time static electricity)

a mother board/ SBC

$50-75 + down the drain

but at 5-10x that

easily cost prohibitive,

for many/most...

 

Ubuntu not so much

this (free to me)

HPProBook645In2018

upgrading system software

Ubuntu1904OnHP2019

Ubuntu1910EE2019

Ubuntu202004DevelOnHP2020

UbuntuDevelGroovy2010OnHP2020

about every 6 months the operating

system upgrades on that non

LongTermService (LTS) versions

to keep up with stuff, development wise...

 

Sugar/ (Sucrose?

aka Saccarhin?) packages exist,

but all i currently

get is the large mouse pointer

and twirling busy indicator,

and can't see even that on the

terminal window (think DOS Box)

 a desktop alternative is there,

but not starting, so idk,

might look into it,

or USB stick run it,

if had space,

so bought a RPi4 8 Gig

2Gig and 4Gig exist

but for adding other stuff,

possible Zoom like Jitsi

(open source)

or a OLPC XS

School Server

for networking

(>4 student(s)/kids)

or internet in a box

similar replacements

and kid safety with machines

need to be worked,

besides just putting together

the RPi4

TouchScreen,

Display Case,

(out when i went first there,

had to Reserve online give card

number, phone number and

other problems,

MicroCenterMonopolyMoney2018

BBCMicroBit2017

and the latest a sales guy for a $2

RPi Pico (arduino like dev board)

tried selling me more

as had to get a locked area

and then probably stepped on it

cashiers generally broadcast your

full name address,  and other

HeartBleed like problems

of privacy like RadioShack

and your phone number

might not want to publish it,

just to buy a cheap part

and being a monopoly like

GoogleAIYVoiceKit2017

GoogleAIYVision2018

Target started selling AIY

but had holder RPi2?

or similar Zero without W

and other out of date stuff

add on Kano kits

NoVASystemic2017

and

Canno? MicroCenter

Toys R US eventually out of

business, nearby, maybe

continuing online,

will see)

so for hardware likely

have to open stuff,

find you got the wrong stuff,

sales "doesn't like me"

"has to do something to it"

"she will be up front"

and destroying for a profiteering

nasty bullying like harassment

and basically small scale theft

while he liked the MakerFaire TShirt

liked them (NoVALabS?') not me

i don't recall i'd met him

PuffedShirt2018

son worked there at MicroCenter

for a bit, Santo's Jr, or whatever,

and likely sold me the cracked

screen BLUG90UnLocked2020

after the BLUG60ToSLW2020

required

BLUG60Lobotomy2020

and other stalking and

selling DropFoodScale2019

stepFXActivityTracker2017

GEMSActivityTracker2018

OpenDogTags2018

NokiaGo2019

open box and other binding

BlueTooth on open stuff problems

can't reset them once paired,

can't use anymore

GarminVivoFit3

go back)

power supply (USB-C 3Amps!

and switch on the power helps)

Heat Sink, Fan

(problems with noise and fans,

a purist may not want fans,

so how to have enough air flow,

monitor temps, and know what you

are doing ,for extreme environments,

likely some burn out their RPi4

thinking it's a desktop like

and even installing originally,

a likely time to overheat,

besides the static electricity,

oddly my RPi4 was not static bagged

and local problem /

gang like GhettoRats

children

overheard saying they were going

to switch out my then opened box

with a burned out one they had,

SlumLords2013

seem to allow such behaviours in

SardineLand...

 

So lots of issues,

i focus on the problems,

some may find a clear path

through this maze, of issues,

and background/ history,

gotchas

hoping to do some instructions,

others may already have,

but a first hand

assembling

installing

how to,

though likely this gives

some geeks/ others a starting/ leaping

off point to know why then

how falls out from that...

Once you've heard some of the

obstacles/ problems

avoiding them instead of repeating

them is just a science not an art,

we won't get into the differences

with engineering...

For now...

Check back this may update,

and maybe not...

Will see...

Do Your Own HomeWork/

ReSearch/ Learning

I can't do it for you...

 

 

Modified Text

 

What's Missing?

 

What Can Be Found?

 

What Can Not Be Found?

 

How To Analyze?

 

Lenses

 

Noob

 

Kids

Ages

3YO?

ScratchJr too much for younger?

Found crying in the corner

because the Scratch cat won't purr?

That different than other situations

of old crying in the corner,

ignored/ abused, etc?

And how to avoid that?

Thinking Zoom really cares

and support groups are actually

supportive?

 

5YO

KinderGarden age?

 

Tween

Nervous socially?

Wanting acceptance

but already at the nasty

teen age years,

hate you,

love you,

gimme?

about the only interactions?

 

Teen

Full blown annoying preAdult

stage(s)?

What no video games?

Missed the opportunity

like

MariaMontessoriOwnersManualOfAChild2012

or something

possibly like some African Americans

not learning swimming as not

allowed in the public pools

back in the day,

early 1960's and before?

Or didn't grow up bicycling

only rich kids had that,

so missed the crazy?

 

 

Dis/Dys

Need a TouchScreen?

Age differences?

3Year old with Savant tendencies

means really 5+ year old,

except with some things?

logic ok, but emotions not?

 

OCD?someone else touched it?

Not entirely a bad characteristic

to have in ConVid19ContinuesIn2020

but slows down with ritualistic

problems, not an anxiety person,

idk...

It's not worth getting out of bed for,

(aka depression?)

that i'm more familiar with...

 

GrandParents

GrandPad only?

Oddly the things good for younger

is sometimes good for older,

LifeLong KinderGarden, etc?

 

 

GeneralPublic

What RPi?

You eat that?

No, lead poisoning?

Computer Board,

not Chips, as in potato,

Silicon, silly...

Credit Card?

What's Wireless Ham Radio?

(WWII comedian

puts Corned Beef sandwich to ear,

mistakenly for ham...)

 

 

Assumptions

 

Learning is generally good if not

too frustrating

 

Regulating emotions when things

don't work can't be easy...

If too easy then why try?

Trivial?

 

Theory and Science

Theory it might work,

science might be an experiment

in getting it to work...

What information is missing?

Why?

Was it just assumed because

MIT / Technology

assumed you grew up on

Computers/ Atari/ VideoGames,

etc?

But without?

Amish plain?

Feral, off grid,

empoverished (sp?),

from another planet like

RobinFlewTheCoup2014

 

 

Time Limits

 

Certain ages may be easier to learn,

missing some things at certain ages,

developmentally difficult to make up,

a natural curiosity, before

things are too kewl,

video games take over,

and adolescent dating,

girls/ boys, peer pressure, etc

set in...

 

 

Book Data

 

FlossManualsNetClassActs2019

class-acts.pdf

 

BookSprint

 

ISBN

 

 Bound

 

CopyRight

 

 Pages

index

 

 

Links

 

OLPCUpdateSugarLabsOnRPi4in2021

 

VeryDoubtFull2021

 

Books2021

 

CyberBullying2020

AbusesInTheNameOfViralEmergency2020

ConVid19ContinuesIn2020

JustSayNoToConVid2020

 

CuriousGeorgeRobotDVD2019

HowToBuildAPrizeWinningRobotByJoelChaffee2019

HowToSayGoodByeInRobotByNatalieStandiford2019

MonkeyVsRobotAndTheCrystalOfPowerByJamesKochalka2019

(plus old guy and robot DVD?)

 

FlossManualsNetClassActs2019

class-acts.pdf

 

NoVAMakerFaire2019

 

RPiTouchScreenDisplay2018

 

NorthByNorthEast2018

 

RobotFest2017

 

RPi3in2016

 

RobotFest2016

 

NoVAMiniMakerFaire2016

 

PreTeenPatience2015

 

RobotFest2015

 

SubUrbanMade2015

 

WarthogsRUs2015

 

....

 

GeekingOutWithRaspberryPi2012

 

 

BookSprint

 

 

JerrySpaceIdea

 

OneLaptopPerChildoplcorg

 

 

/GoFish

likely many more

how to collect without buying

into TagClouds and other

nonsense, /Old(NonSocial)Fart

 

 

Conclusion

 

Summary of experience or similar

 

None so far,

short hairs (pc:Straws?)

problems with suppliers,

vendors, etc...

$60+

RPi Display documentation

doesn't even list the RPi4

so not sure it's compatible

 

The RPi4 was $75

and had seen a discounted

but by the time i got to the store,

recently it was back to full price,

missed it by a day, someone may

have said...

 

A MicroCenter Sales guy needs to be fired...

name on receipt may not be that,

use someone else's sticker

when blatantly destroying a behind

the counter, here buy this broken one

i have to break before giving you because

commissions based sales

for $2 item,

lying about the $2 first one,

less than 5 bought at once,

then jumps to $5 each,

when pointing at the screen

says here >5 or 6th is $5

and implying/ saying have to buy

all at once, 5x upselling

but i want to try it and see if useful

for me before buying others,

so because it's a trap / trick

have to ask for something

so someone puts a sticker on something,

small items, and locking down,

problems, incomplete,

nastiness, plain lying,

and other problems,

old lady in line cutting ahead,

got stopped, privacy at the register,

etc...

 

Mail order/ online shopping other problems,

there were

use this app, give your phone number,

but i'm right here, don't have a connected

cell phone, bouncer like problems,

not sure where i described that,

on here or gMaps2019

GoogleAnnoyances2014

GoogleAIYVoiceKit2017

GoogleAIYVision2018

and other consumer protection

and advocacy problems,

stalking, hate, etc....

 

 

Anyways, building a school

server could be difficult,

protecting it even so...

 

Activities have changed

Cheese,

Speak

Maze

Scratch

 (Jr loads as a

BLUG60Lobotomy2020

app, but the regular

Scratch doesn't...

Paint is popular, drawing refridgerator art,

etc...

 

Age ranges and wanting to know

where you are,

passwords in animal shapes,

and other problems of

Sugarizer

limited Activities,

updates to Speak

can't see Futurama like eyes

one eye but not Glasses

(glasses missing?)

and Chess now exists,

but how to mesh/ connect

and communicate when

a normally Zoom monopoly

and M$ bias,

even Windows 10 is touted

as running on RPi4,

when FLOSS (Free and Libre

Open Source Software)

instead of M$ monopoly

FaceBook like exploitations,

selling info and child privacy

and protection, much less

CyberBullying2020

and

AbusesInTheNameOfViralEmergency2020

continue...

 

 

 

Discussion

 

A place for feedback on the page presented

 

What is safety for children?

Lock them away for year(s)

while the virus kills off many things

including their childhood?

 

Or is it like learning riding a bike

and language learning

somethings are easier at particular

ages, the natural curiosity of learning

and the other kids are doing it,

but since PanDemic we can't do X,Y,Z?

 

What of the kids during SpanishFlu?

Polio?

Ebola?

Measles,

Mumps,

Rubella

(MMR) etc?

 

Just skip years of education?

 

Is OLPC/ Sugar Labs/

Constructionist

education?

 

Is it being used where you are?

As required?

or optional?

 

More like

MariaMontessoriOwnersManualOfAChild2012

 

What of

FlossManualsNetClassActs2019

is that enough to learn?

class-acts.pdf

 

YMMV

IANAL

Standard DisClaimers

etc

 

 

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