ReDesigningTeenGroupSponsorTraining2021
from
SituationalAssessmentTemplate2017
Introduction/Definition/etc
So following
ThereIsSomeThingWrongInWhoVille2019
and
AlaNotIntCon2018
not sure how involved i want
to be with it
but went to another mandatory training
to volunteer with kids...
and musing about how the training
system can/ would be changed,
if i were king/queen/
HadMyDruthers,
sort of...
Body
Original Text
Sadly it's been a read the boring
legalease (sp?)
for years, and taking turns reading
a nonsensical document,
which is apparently
a legal requirement,
but other parts of the training/
signup / finger printing card,
child abuse reporting and
other type training,
for 3-4 hours
mandatory every 3 years?
but i generally go each year,
little to no support for
"group sponsoring"
and given i got into it following
TheShortOfIt
wondering what kids are going
through these days,
it's not the world i grew up in,
bullying got worse,
online CyberBullying2020
included, so once home,
still get crap over the internet wires,
even as an adult
YouTube stupid?/harassing comments
besides the numerous porn like
account names associated/ commenting
from my postings on SailingTubers2021
channels, etc...
BlendedHyBridMeetings2021
aren't in the regulations/ rules/
policy /procedures for the organization(s),
and all sorts of other problems...
So someone trying to decide if it is for them,
has to sit through what may amount
for torturous type training, for hours,
to see if suitable?
Maybe changing it to more experiential,
we aren't holding up progress, can't get out
of there until went through all 30+ pages
of readings, and eBook manual,
and any questions are keeping people
late, interrupting, in a didactic format,
outhouse presenters, from other parts
of the state lecture us on how things
are so much better there,
which really they aren't,
Norther Virginia has many pluses,
some including many districts,
/jurisdictions, generally higher cost of living
some supports not found elsewhere,
12Step clubs with more than
just AA and NA,
some other associated programs,
ACA, AlaNon, and a plethora (sp?)
of other spin off programs
Clutterers, Debtors, Messies,
AffectiveDisorder
and many aren't active, but have had,
and a BigBook for many of those exist,
a Bookstore/Gift Shop used to
exist, in a couple incarnations over the
decades, i don't go there anymore,
after problems with a coffee bar drunk
bar maid, conflicts with an NA meeting
and they took over /s witched rooms,
and other problems...
after 20+ years of going there,
anyways, old wounds/ resentments,
used to be workshops on generic
12Step any program work on steps
Open Mic night(s)
i did internship there,
after a private hospital one,
and didn't like LockDowns/
medical model,
etc
Anyways, experiential
learning works better for moi,
and likely others,
i can pretend to be a child,
and role play,
many people don't know how a
Teen meeting differs from an
adult meeting, so actually model
that process, you are a designated
new teen in a teen meeting,
the trainer(s) will be the AMIAS/
Group Sponsors, and you experience it
for an hour+ time, and do a fishbowl,
experiential after training /questions on it,
from greeting, to exclusions,
only allowed in if a teen, designate
(preteen, closed meeting)
an honorary teen, here's your name
tag, and age, assigned,
and keep it closed, only teens and
AMIAS allowed in the room,
and handle the things that typically
come up, a parent trying to sit in on
the meeting, a sibling, older, younger,
etc, and how that may play out,
and actually model the good behaviors
and maybe some bad ones
too, of the AMIAS in that role,
how to gently / assertively keep
it a closed meeting.
Kids with smart phones,
rings, and group conscience
was no phones during the meeting,
getting started on the meeting format
it's about start time: who's chairing?
and what are the readings
what are/ is a Goodie/Baddie/
Happy Crappy and why calling it
something else is a problem
What happens when someone like
me talks a lot, done on purpose,
how to stay on topic, handle
interruptions, and redirect,
daily readings/
finding a meeting topic
from what was shared,
what brought us here,
basic family / drinkers history,
how it effects me/ the family,
but keeping the focus on me/child,
its a kids meeting, kids run the meetings,
and learn skills along the way,
officers/ Chair,
Treasurer,
Secretary,
Group Rep (GR),
what are those roles,
how to volunteer
what are the requirements?
how long in program?
how old?
any exclusions?
Interruptions from outside the group,
someone trying to listen in at the door,
and seen, call whom? who goes to talk to/
enforce privacy/ confidentiality,
anonymity (oddly annoy seems in their
to dyslexic/ transporting brain(s)),
and how to pronounce those
words, if not used to them,
nor adult, reading level(s),
say for 6-7 year olds?
(or even some adults)
and what they mean,
the reading of must legally report
harm self or others (other wording)
child abuse and what a mandatory
reporter is, what they do and how?
but what about bullying?
from adults/ kids/ others in the area?
safety problems
and on through
Half Time/ 7th Tradition
pass the hat/ basket
handling the money
what donations, i didn't know
oh, we put in the basket
$1 or so / (more in adults, btw)
meeting to help cover
expenses
and/or someone drove the kid(s)
teens there, and permission slips/
authorizations, notarized, etc
closing the meeting,
managing the time,
but realizing it's a kids meeting
they run the meetings,
leaderless is one of the technical
clinical names/ mutual support
a given suggested meeting format,
and what that means,
how it's been modified,
someone talks about something
that is not program, and way off base/
age appropriate/
how to handle?
someone falls asleep/
walks in drunk like?
educational and might not happen,
but training experientially (sp?),
closed meeting, that was my dad/
mom/ they will sober up in the car,
taking the keys, calling a
trusted friend, taking the bus/
getting a ride home/ DWI/DUI
etc
Someone's got weed/ drugs/
how to handle,
etc...
Various surprises, and how to handle,
first hand, someone takes turns being
the AMIAS, did we get permission
for a guest, we were looking for
some substitutes do the kids agree?
vote in a new person/ volunteer/
adult...
Overcontrolling the group,
over sharing as an adult,
a teacher/ religious person
tries dominating the group,
brings in Religion/
Clinical/ other "outside issues"
while this is not group psychotherapy
nor even Certified Substance Abuse
Counselor classes some of those
techniques may be useful,
and accounting for the basket/
7th tradition, a spreadsheet/
worksheet, monthly rent,
how that is handled,
adults keep the money between
meetings, and kids do the accounting
the treasurer
the secretary does the We Care/
phone list, say it snows, what
is the phone tree/ who calls/
emails whom
What of the reporting between
meetings, say revolving AMIAS/
group sponsors how does one
sponsor who wasn't there that
week know what's likely next week?
reporting out anonymously,
we had 5 kids, 2 new,
and used up the welcome packets,
need to get more, we took in
$5 today and have a balance/
treasury of $31.07
an need to buy Welcome Packets
a new daily reader, (which one?
teen ODAT/ red or blue, )
maybe a Courage to Be Me would help,
and someone needs to donate cookies,
as have a young person, and meetings
are always better with snacks
except for the overeater/ diabetic,
someone's got peanut allergies, etc...
cant be near any of that stuff,
on to closing the meeting
serenity prayer/ declaration,
leaders choice,
hot next meetings are planned
what AMIAS typically say to each
other after the meeting
securing the area/ clean up,
chairs and literature put away,
Covering a missing AMIAS
Weather changes, vacations,
etc
Conferences, how long "in program"
how much
how old,
permission slips, travel,
costs, what to bring, what not to bring,
conference "rules"
etc
or the whole group goes home,
early ending the fun...
etc. variations
and proprietary type stuff omitted,
Modified Text
What's Missing?
how boring a reading of the rules/
regs is/ are...
an abusive/ overcontrolling
trainer/ AMIAS and the effects
on the group/kids can be
What Can Be Found?
What Can Not Be Found?
How To Analyze?
Lenses
Noob
IDK anything about 12Step
maybe lucky , maybe a
"double winner"
idk...
Kid(s)
i was just told i had to be here,
like dad/mom/etc who got
court ordered to AA
for DWI...
doing my time,
how do i get out of here?
Dis/Diss/Dys/Hiss/Etc
Generally disabled are excluded,
oddly, as many have some traits
that would/could be helpful,
ADD/ADHD common in kids/
and adults,
Dyslexic,
Autistic,
Manic/ Depressed/
Self Harm/ Cutting
many are topics and behaviors
kids also have
but not harming the kids...
GeneralPublic
Most don't know/ hear about
12Step and other confidential support
groups/ training/ therapy
WalledGardens2021
are partially why...
at the same time
Public OurRach and
Public Information Officers/
Institutions and other coordinating
and some programs say AlaNon
would be 2-3-5x the size of
AA and AA is huge size wise,
given family size and people affected
by drinkers many more would be larger,
but somehow are not, why?
Why Not?
Assumptions
haven't disclosed
any personal stories,
anonymity is protected
procedural and policy trainings,
not dump and run type sharing(s)
Time Limits
Generally meetings are about an Hour
trainings were scheduled for 4 hours,
rotating who is an AMIAS
could be done and started again,
second hour, next meeting,
rotate role playing many different ways?
Book Data
12Step Books are copyrighted,
the readings are owned by the
publishing house/ World Service Office/
Org
Generalized formats could be made
for things like 1wStep is presented
in TV shows/ dramas...
ISBN
Bound
CopyRight
Pages
index
Links
ReDesigningTeenGroupSponsorTraining2021
BlendedHyBridMeetings2021
WalledGardens2021
CyberBullying2020
ThereIsSomeThingWrongInWhoVille2019
AlaNotIntCon2018
HippieClownCamp2011
AVeteransSonLaughsAndSpitsAtMe2011
RacismAnonymous
/GoFish
some have to experience to learn,
and going to an open meeting
is likely required for many training
in Substance Abuse,
Nursing, Law Enforcement
court ordered, etc...
Conclusion
Summary of experience or similar
Some ideas based on now years of experiences
with the training, but really don't want to
volunteer to be the trainer, ironically...
From previous experience,
clinical and group,
given the reactions, my own
included, there must be a better
way...
I've suggested a few,
but likely not going to change
anyone(s) else...
Discussion
A place for feedback on the page presented
What experience(s) have you had/
can you share about 12Step?
Other Treatment modalities?
How is confidentially protected?
Who's the thought police?
what do they do?
Why would Teachers
and Preachers likely be bad
at this task/ volunteer job?
What assumptions on/
in those
careers make it so?
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