SunSeekerEZ3Trike2020
from
SituationalAssessmentTemplate2017
Introduction/Definition/etc
BenteBikeOptions2020
eBikeCheating2017
4WheelsBad2WheelsGood3WheelsMaybe
and other data points
led to this,
mostly getting it wholesale
but seeing how that reduced
cost is really sweat equity
and learning some of what
goes into the costs of a shop/
dealership, etc in the shipping,
limited parts, availability,
and assembly issues
not to mention design,
liability, support, maintenance,
etc...
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So considering the Adult Trike E350
basically a grandparents bike with a
24 inch electric motor on front
and battery in the back, basket,
and a limitation of 10 MPH
max, with the electric weighing
in at around 75 pounds or so,
while about the same price
$1300 or so, wholesale,
MAP (Minimum Advertised Price)
this is not selling, and also
IANAL, but have recommended
other distributor relationships
than just JBI.Bike (QBP, MidWay,
UBI? etc?) as feel
gouged (sp?) by shipping costs,
$125 or so from Pennsylvania
warehouse, it was only in California
before the fires, and paying $1400
when the combined $1500 starts
at some special rates,
$500 is free shipping but bikes/trikes
oversize are exclusions,
this one being big some special
oversize, the eBike special handling
makes some sense, lithium batteries
have taken own planes,
(some air disaster show
i haven't seen in a while)
shipping is union, freight
and S&H is not Freight,
so totals and invoices are confusing
on that too, talking to a sales person
a problem, and some things
are REP, REC, Replacement
have to talk to a Sales Rep,
some links don't work for this
the online manual PDF doesn't
download, some XSeam
measurement
for if long/ short enough,
but at 6' don't see how it wouldn't
work for me,
eBikes from various places
weighed in at about that,
financially
some only available from out west
but imported next shipment
October, already assembled,
i'm guessing, the links to
manuals likely worked,
but small scale at some point,
this a 65? pound Heavy Duty
taking a 400 pound passenger/
rider load, only the Cargo Bike
taking a 250 pound rider
and 250 pound cargo matched
or exceeded that, but not in stock,
other bents were two wheel,
many had ape hanger bars,
the TadPoles looked interesting,
smaller overall length,
but wheel behind the head
lean back and get it caught
like hair in machinery
not that the arms on the side of
the EZ3 HD are free from getting
hit with elbows etc when doing hand
signal turn turns, need fenders,
finding a basket that fits,
much less racks for this unique
ComputingAcrossAmericaBook
Behemoth?
A shock absorber (sp?)
and hinge in the middle
but not easily collapseable
one of the first things was
trying to get a pin through those
instructions weren't that helpful
and thought it might be the wrong part
but soft metal and lateral stability
putting the front wheel on first
might help keep it from scraping
or doing on a soft surface,
a back patio of the parts guy
i volunteered for myself,
a shipping drop off location
may have been closer, and
may have to see what options
there are, but many have cars,
not sure how it got where i first
saw it, and might have to ask,
find out, you see even trying
to get it has strained relations,
interpersonal issues
get an email late in the day
it showed up and was picked up
a day earlier than i had expected
as shipping Freight it took a special
handling and is big so likely wanted it
out of there, I'm asked for the payment
ahead of time while for smaller stuff
had done like a COD (cash on delivery)
so from a small life insurance policy
my mother (and father) had
tried to do something to help
myself, some times in my life
i have made big money type
decisions, this a risky one,
the wholesale part made it
possible, went and researched
in BenteBikeOptions2020
and before eBikeCheating2017
(also from mom and ear marked
as an eBike i tried small and
cheap) this it isn't, small as in
low, but long and heavy,
PedalCarts2015
PedalCartAlternatives2016
gave me an idea how it might
be and might weigh similar
but speed is an issue
Coaster brakes, one speed,
and reverse is a nice feature of
that, but low, and hard seat,
limited carrying ability
but taking a folding luggage
cart and turned out behind
the seat posts (two stays
propping up the hinged metal
frame around a mesh seat,
and one of those inside the
handle and had a makeshift
trailer, given not other possible
others are QuickRelease skewers
through the axle and wheels
on this (two in the back)
end at the wheel, not through,
more like a wheelchair...
No TrailerHitch like ball,
to pull/ tow stuff, maybe something
to WeldingBasics2013
but might have to buy extra frame
components, etc, PClamp
other options...
Modified Text
What's Missing?
bolts to lock the steering
in place so doesn't hit the
crank when pedaling?
Assembly Instructions
in PDF format
Whole section on brakes
and shifting how those cables
are routed
Part numbers and ordering
for things not listed,
the long chain for instance
not sold by the place that
does the whole bike which
includes one, what if not
good?
MasterLink as this long
chain was one without
a KMC Z51? 200+ links?
very long chain by bent
standards...
Tools, some could be included
maybe a premium pack with
some spare parts, tubes,
where mirrors can go,
extra rack, mesh seat
bottom instead of (large)
wedgie seat on a bent, etc...
Electric conversion kit
SideBySide kit for Bents
exist, sun shades,
but nothing already
outfitted for this model?
Racks that fit this Bent,
not available from the same
distribution channel?
Chain from same distributor
Spare parts available
just as anything else
instead of just replacement
warranty parts
What Can Be Found?
Ways to spend money,
mostly differently
Reasons to have backup plans
Dependency on MotorVehicles
for shipping, back and forth
What Can Not Be Found?
hinted at missing part(s)
sabotaged?
invoice?
reasons for hole in the box,
punched it?
while holding the pocket knife
(nicked (sp?)
my finger and bled some
cutting zipties on packing
Reasons for losing the box
other than nastiness?
A Fine?
Can't keep that,
same box got
and stuck can't send back
requires original packaging
to return, RMA, (return auth)
etc
Reasons for the nastiness/
abuse?
How To Analyze?
Lenses
Noob
Described as a entry to
intermediate
tadpoles are more the race
equivalent, but leaning back
and somehow crank as front
bothers me, no that the
James Bond like table saw
crank at crotch height
isn't scary enough...
Being seen so low by
comparison to safety bike
(wedgies)
Kids
Kewl bike,
going to try to steal it,
and wonder why you
might have gotten a thumb
at nose, nanannana
hide and go seek
type response?
FrameBuilders
Need to make this out
of lighter materials,
maybe not Carbon,
but something lighter than
steel...
Special parts heavy duty
fork, for eBike addition(s)
extra mounting points
for add on luggage/
motor adapters,
luggage racks,
water bottles, etc...
General Public
that's odd
needs a flag
but no easy place to put one,
unlike the
PedalCarts2015
Assumptions
Time Limits
Book Data
ISBN
Bound
CopyRight
Pages
index
Links
BenteBikeOptions2020
eBikeCheating2017
PedalCartAlternatives2016
AmbushBaitBike2016
PedalCarts2015
WeldingBasics2013
4WheelsBad2WheelsGood3WheelsMaybe
ComputingAcrossAmericaBook
BikeTechWheelBuilding
and many many more
/GoFish
see what relates and
what doesn't and to whom
and why?
Conclusion
Summary of experience or similar
Only first ride so far,
and partially assembled at that,
the linkage for steering a bar with
two threaded ends and a ball
swivel like joint which can be
adjusted longer and shorter,
by a bit, i guess to center
the under the seat steering
but it knocks/ hits the pedals,
i could have ZipTied (tm elsewhere)
it but had overstayed my welcome
at the dropoff/ assembly point,
asking for cups of water and ice,
the heat, seemed to be a major
issue, and getting it out of their
garage, i tried getting back
home with it to learn/ try things
in the comfort of a/c,
back in the garage
after the second day,
the first went hour(s)
and he called time at 10 pm
(maybe 20 minutes before
on a holiday,
i couldn't take on Rail,
bents not allowed?
try wheelchair disabled exception?
but closed, so walking it to their
mile(s) had walked the 10+ miles
to get there the first time,
but much cooler weather,
and stop and dark,
carrying a tire pump floor model,
big but tires are 110PSI
and a hand pump would take a while
didn't even specify if Presta or Schrader
value, so trying to order parts,
extra tubes, etc with shortages,
spending more, $1200 in
and another $100
and still problems paying,
as spent $200 the previous month
$80 wheel set, not bad, but not
rim brake compatible, both disc
and a mixed Montague front Disc
back regular rim brake 26inch
not 27.5 which is most of today's
or 29" popular too, back and forth
on the eBikeCheating2017
RideGenesisH1CommuterEBike2017
14 inch tires, unknown motor
supply and even angled valve stem),
broke the pedal, likely described in on
recent posting, so limited means
to go get parts, starts being like
a BikerRedNeck, various projects
up on blocks like you'd see
cars in various states of disRepair...
many rednecks would at least have
a garage and/or yard to do these
things, but not a (really) poor one
in Suburgatory, etc...)
then the few minutes before
UberXL is big, but none available
at that time, cost $25 or more
for bigger, added to what i owe
when felt like sabotaged,
to keep my toy, new best thing,
then wanted to ride it,
and i don't share things like that
led to a get off my property,
and other threats,
while i had been showing up,
calling when outside, or nearby
after getting email things were in,
and picked up, some timing
issues, as i have to leave
hours before i'd even hear
that things were there, and/or
time to pick up, i can't think
of one time that it was an
easy thing to do,
first trip was walking and
bragging rights, cooler
weather and round about way
of finding it, needing parts,
first paying, money order,
one time, as mailed to me,
dangerous without brake
pads to ride and tired/ sick,
bad weather, etc, so got those
mailed to me, but other times
back and forth 12-15
plus minus some lost
in relatively affluent neighborhoods,
some laying down on people/s lawns,
buying time at the local food place
after big hills, charging the eBike
for hour(s) $20-30+ in food
then wait for hours more for
sundown, which i'm not good
at anxious? about what is going
on and feeling like abused,
mechanical people can be controlling
i know i have been,
but autism too, likely add disability
and all the DropIn stuff
was to not to have to make appointment,
and transit times, and limited funds
and quickly becomes unsolvable,
with summer heat, have to leave
when cool, but catch 22 of have
to contact to schedule, and just
went out on a limb to guess
it was in, and they were around
a quick pickup is one thing
and progressing to talking into
able to buy a whole bike/trike/
eBike, while seems to support the
org which isn't doing what it
normally would given
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Discussion
A place for feedback on the page presented
What installation stuff have you done?
Ever done wholesale?
What are the drawbacks from retail?
Some assembly required?
Means what?
if do most things on your own
can you cut out the middle man/
extra costs?
how is it different than Employee Benefits?
Employees may have a base pay,
and then commissions on top of that,
but volunteers? even after years,
when most volunteer appreciation things
are drinking centric events
even fund raisers keggers...
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