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USDAData2021

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USDAData2021

from

SituationalAssessmentTemplate2017

 


 

Introduction/Definition/etc

 

following

PackagingDataExamples2021

Packaging2021

PackagingData2019

MetaBreadBooks2019

2020BreadsPlus.ods

Books2021

MetaBreadBooks2019

MetaMobilityDevices2019

(how'd that get in there? meta?)

Legacy2019

Legacy2017

 

MungedDataReasoning2020

MungedMetaData2017

Munged2017

looking at the

USDA (US Department of AgriCulture)

having previously seen Nut

(short for nutrition?)

an open source program

running on at least Linux

but not seen in a while...

 

 

Body

 

Original Text

 

Punting on entering my own packaging data?

what is actually available for free online?

 

API

(Application Programming Interface)

requires signing up for a Key

only NxK

(some thousands N-3.nn iirc) )

hits per day,

 

DemoKey

 

some examples use a DemoKey

for

curl

wget

type hist of various types

similar to

http

web form

SubMit

get

post

etc...

 

 

M$Access Legacy

used to be available

similar to below SR Legacy data?

 

SR Legacy Data

something changed along the way

and they are doing things differently

have to learn more to find out what/why

etc?

nut is likely based on older database

and doing a major remodel?

for newer?

but last update was 2 years ago

nutBIG

seems to be a SQL interface

to larger data

and work to be done on upgrading the interface

but has gone UnderGround?

as not focused on

https://sourceforge.net/projects/nut/

maybe one of the guys died?

someone of the name mentioned on

nut.SourceForge.Net

seems to have died,

or someone of that name mentioned on the web

same person, idk

just a guess

at this point...

 

 

Foundation/FundaMental?

 

probably need to learn this new stuff

 

Experimental

 

may be interesting,

but not necessary,

for now?

tbd?

 

Global Brands

 

Sounds like import / export and required

data from Brands,

so those things i might be entering

might not have to do at least part of it?

Would be nice,

but not likely, afaict,

more to learn there...

I think someone at a local TJs said

they had not added theirs,

if I got Aldi and Lidl to, they would

Not sure how they would have known

i was the person doing this,

nor have authority in the matter with their competitors,

but some at other chains / competitors say

they already have the data,

so basically followed around stores,

by people who have read this,

say required reading in school,

started working, occasionally read

this after school, given the years this

site has been up, maybe a lot of people

at least exposed to things i've said/

written up here...

 

Formats JSON, HTML, CSV, etc

 

Data available in some machine readable formats

listed

JSON

HTML?

CSV Comma Separated Values

etc

 

DownLoads

 

compressed/ zipped about 300+ MB

not impossible,

but

unzipped 1.3-1.5 Gig

more than the disk space i've got currently

add an external drive?

so that leaves API calls

given limitations of my setup

at home

 

 

but

https://data.nal.usda.gov/system/files/sr28asc.zip

was all Nut wanted

so what gives?

or did it download more after getting that?

 

programming examples?

 

links from what i've tried/

script it?

 

 

Nut

 

in Ubuntu Apt Repos

but a name conflict/ symbol table problem too,

Network UPS Tools

 

NutSQLite

OutDated (2+ years ago)

first run points in a dialog box to

something ( a very long URL not selectable

to copy and paste, so screen shot,

resize terminal window and type back in)

USDA link which seems to be

after looking in where it sends, multiple parts there,

https://data.nal.usda.gov/system/files/sr28asc.zip

and

 

Nut.SourceForge.net

which suggests

ChronoMeter app

which is commercial,

not sure if the developer went to work for them,

but doesn't seem OpenSource/FLOSS

and i didn't agree to their license(s)

 

nut in a separate page?

like many things make a separate page

sectionalize it here first?

 

 

Modified Text

 

What's Missing?

 

ownership?

depending upon others data

doesn't teach oneself making your own databases

as much as the problems normalizing

and what traditional DB don't do

instead of ObjectOriented

and KnowledgeBases

 

What Can Be Found?

 

obscure and unusAble (sp?)

 

government obfuscation?

 

CirCumLocutionDePartMent

 

 

What Can Not Be Found?

 

redundant section??

or too rushed to answer as typically

 

 

How To Analyze?

 

Lenses

 

Noob

Food

Numbers?

why?

how?

what?

who?

when?

Now?

So you think I'm fat?

And You're Not?

 

 

Kid(s)

Perhaps the most vulnerable

may have the worst time understanding

the guberment provided data

 

Dis/Diss/Dys/Hiss/Etc

DiaBetic

caused by medication(s)?

Lactose Intolerant (sp?)?

Autie?

Aspie?

Just plain overweight?

Underweight?

Geeky and like data?

You might need something like this?

assuming you care what others think,

and guessing at what a general audience

that fat slob of an USofAHoles

typical in the mainstream media...

 

GeneralPublic/Population

Trivia knowing anything about what we eat?

Survey?

what?

why?

FoodLog?

what's that?

you're not fat, how can you be an OverEater?

Much less Weigh and Measure?

 

 

Assumptions

 

updating is bad

learning another guberment source

and some import/ export

see the diff(s)

of what I've been doing on

PackagingDataExamples2021

...

compared to what's up there?

 

 

Time Limits

 

CountDowns2021

days and counting?

one of the biggest dings

is Debris?

Garbage?

 

really Catholic hate

degradation, demeaning and stealing

20211119ReVerse911Attempts2021

PoliticalHateCrimes2021

 

AttemptedMurderByInspections2019

 

SomeOfHowThePoorIsKilledByTheSystems2012

 

 

 

Book Data

 

USDA published lots,

i guess

and for public domain,

no?

 

PortionControl2021

CookSomeThing2019

CookSomeThingElse2021

 

Books2021

FoodBooks2020

IceCreamMakingBooks2019

MiscBooks2019

 

MetaBreadBooks2019

 

OrangeDriedBeefMirage

BachelorsRicePuddingVeganOption

SomePublishedWorks

 

at least on thing i like

but decoding it

Nutritional Retention

basically prep/cooking stuff

what does that do to the nutritional value of the food

so a recipe like i've done above,

though not detailed enough in those writeups (sp?),

with weights and measures,

like typically do now,

how to calculate/ estimate the nutritional value(s)?

 

http://www.ars.usda.gov/SP2UserFiles/Place/12354500/Data/retn/retn06.pdf

 

 

ISBN

 

 Bound

 

CopyRight

 

 Pages

index

 

 

Links

 

USDAData2021

 

http://USDA.gov

 

http://Data.gov

 

http://www.ars.usda.gov/SP2UserFiles/Place/12354500/Data/retn/retn06.pdf

 

Nut.SourceForge.net

 

sends to

ChronoMeter app

instead of easily seeing even the old FLOSS code

so sold out?

or what?

major refresh doesn't show

or moved to GitHub or similar?

Jim Jozwaik

(looking up that name

is someone similar

name who died...)

name mentioned

so might have been an adopted

or jacked page?

searching around, found

https://sourceforge.net/projects/nut/

shows a project not updated for the last

two year...

 

and cull the links mentioned above

and elsewhere on this page

automated like?

tag cloud?

 

/GoFish

the usual

searching may find other interesting things

and not so interesting that need updating

so how about you actually update things?

Legacy2020

Legacy2019

Legacy2017

 

Loot2020

Lout2020

Lout2020.PBWorks.com.txt

 

 

Conclusion

 

Summary of experience or similar

 

Some updates from the traditional stuff i looked at

say 5-7 years ago,

but not the manufacturer has to provide free access

to their packaging information on their sites,

instead of SmartLabel (tm ElseWhere)

where you can't even screen save?

like CVS  (tied to BigPharm)

and can't save stuff even screenshots there either,..

 

Guberment data through

API Rate limits

3.x k hits/ day?

and have to sign up for a key?

and that's free and open source

government data?

I guess corp use

and guberment servers?

 

Manually trying to access the data

and very long URLs needlessly so?

a repeat factor (have to enter number of servings,

where assuming one would be most easy for most people,

even one 100g, 1 fruit (medium apple/PineApple?)

so multiple calls to get basic information,

needlessly so, afaict,

screen scraping techniques typical of web stuff,

and might get blocked, mentions of going over the

APi rate limit gets one blocked for a day,

or so, and other actions, afaict...

 

On a SmartPhone getting the data,

is difficult too,  with some character sizes,

typing keyboard pops up, and width/

LandScape/ Portrait problems, to see wider data,

iirc, i got frustrated with poorly designed stuff,

and stopped even trying it,

typical of dealing with

guberment, and large organizations,

think Enron, Lobbying, and

Thank You For Smoking

as Ag is known to favor many things,

meat, poultry, diary industries,

as large lobbying factors,

where healthier eating is

neglected, for higher lobbying funds,

i guess, IANAL nor Lobbyist,

nor PAC/ SuperPAC, etc...

And smoking can kill you,

back in the day when cigarette machines

were most places, and soda machines still

in schools, well with high sugar/fructose

caffienated (sp?) products instead of

fake sodas, artificial sweeteners and

juice like subsititues,

And Reagan thought ketchup was a vegetable...

(it's a fruit right?

like most things on the Left Coast?)

/Ducks

MuscovyDuck2016

MuscovyMissing2017

 

 

 

Discussion

 

A place for feedback on the page presented

 

What data do you have?

have you manually entered it yoursel(f|ves)?

and it's copyrighted packaging information

or only the presentation/ marketing spin

the NutritionFacts must be public somewhere,

no?

what does copyright mean?

a temporary lease from the public domain?

how many years?

in Disney time?

MickeyMouseIsARegisteredRepublican

MiceRatsAndMickey2012

 

now your parent died of heart disease,

you have (hyper|hypo)lipid (sp?)

high triglycerides

and having other problems,

and 20211119ReVerse911Attempts2021

AttemptedMurderByInspections2019

Inspectionz2018

 

ZigZagPityPartyForTheNannyState

 

RepublicanTerrorists2013

 

SlumLords2013

 

SomeOfHowThePoorIsKilledByTheSystems2012

 

CountDowns2021

 

How would you solve it?

Time is ticking...

 

 

License

 

Creative Commons Share and Share Alike,

Non Commercial, Non Derivative,

for the whole site's contents

unless otherwise explicitly stated

 

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20211219 Jerry

  1. catch a few typos
  2. try to clarify some of the newer stuff added
  3. and likely made it worse, late in the day now
  4. and multiple windows have this page,
  5. so edit the other one, which is older and likely
  6. muck up what's up here,
  7. if doesn't pull the latest during the edit call?
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20211218 Jerry

  1. correct a few numbers on USDA
  2. hits/ day given was low
  3. by maybe a third? 
  4. download size
  5. compressed
  6. ending size
  7. add a few things about nut
  8. would be a good thing for a new page?
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