USDAData2021
from
SituationalAssessmentTemplate2017
Introduction/Definition/etc
following
PackagingDataExamples2021
Packaging2021
PackagingData2019
MetaBreadBooks2019
2020BreadsPlus.ods
Books2021
MetaBreadBooks2019
MetaMobilityDevices2019
(how'd that get in there? meta?)
Legacy2019
Legacy2017
MungedDataReasoning2020
MungedMetaData2017
Munged2017
looking at the
USDA (US Department of AgriCulture)
having previously seen Nut
(short for nutrition?)
an open source program
running on at least Linux
but not seen in a while...
Body
Original Text
Punting on entering my own packaging data?
what is actually available for free online?
API
(Application Programming Interface)
requires signing up for a Key
only NxK
(some thousands N-3.nn iirc) )
hits per day,
DemoKey
some examples use a DemoKey
for
curl
wget
type hist of various types
similar to
http
web form
SubMit
get
post
etc...
M$Access Legacy
used to be available
similar to below SR Legacy data?
SR Legacy Data
something changed along the way
and they are doing things differently
have to learn more to find out what/why
etc?
nut is likely based on older database
and doing a major remodel?
for newer?
but last update was 2 years ago
nutBIG
seems to be a SQL interface
to larger data
and work to be done on upgrading the interface
but has gone UnderGround?
as not focused on
https://sourceforge.net/projects/nut/
maybe one of the guys died?
someone of the name mentioned on
nut.SourceForge.Net
seems to have died,
or someone of that name mentioned on the web
same person, idk
just a guess
at this point...
Foundation/FundaMental?
probably need to learn this new stuff
Experimental
may be interesting,
but not necessary,
for now?
tbd?
Global Brands
Sounds like import / export and required
data from Brands,
so those things i might be entering
might not have to do at least part of it?
Would be nice,
but not likely, afaict,
more to learn there...
I think someone at a local TJs said
they had not added theirs,
if I got Aldi and Lidl to, they would
Not sure how they would have known
i was the person doing this,
nor have authority in the matter with their competitors,
but some at other chains / competitors say
they already have the data,
so basically followed around stores,
by people who have read this,
say required reading in school,
started working, occasionally read
this after school, given the years this
site has been up, maybe a lot of people
at least exposed to things i've said/
written up here...
Formats JSON, HTML, CSV, etc
Data available in some machine readable formats
listed
JSON
HTML?
CSV Comma Separated Values
etc
DownLoads
compressed/ zipped about 300+ MB
not impossible,
but
unzipped 1.3-1.5 Gig
more than the disk space i've got currently
add an external drive?
so that leaves API calls
given limitations of my setup
at home
but
https://data.nal.usda.gov/system/files/sr28asc.zip
was all Nut wanted
so what gives?
or did it download more after getting that?
programming examples?
links from what i've tried/
script it?
Nut
in Ubuntu Apt Repos
but a name conflict/ symbol table problem too,
Network UPS Tools
NutSQLite
OutDated (2+ years ago)
first run points in a dialog box to
something ( a very long URL not selectable
to copy and paste, so screen shot,
resize terminal window and type back in)
USDA link which seems to be
after looking in where it sends, multiple parts there,
https://data.nal.usda.gov/system/files/sr28asc.zip
and
Nut.SourceForge.net
which suggests
ChronoMeter app
which is commercial,
not sure if the developer went to work for them,
but doesn't seem OpenSource/FLOSS
and i didn't agree to their license(s)
nut in a separate page?
like many things make a separate page
sectionalize it here first?
Modified Text
What's Missing?
ownership?
depending upon others data
doesn't teach oneself making your own databases
as much as the problems normalizing
and what traditional DB don't do
instead of ObjectOriented
and KnowledgeBases
What Can Be Found?
obscure and unusAble (sp?)
government obfuscation?
CirCumLocutionDePartMent
What Can Not Be Found?
redundant section??
or too rushed to answer as typically
How To Analyze?
Lenses
Noob
Food
Numbers?
why?
how?
what?
who?
when?
Now?
So you think I'm fat?
And You're Not?
Kid(s)
Perhaps the most vulnerable
may have the worst time understanding
the guberment provided data
Dis/Diss/Dys/Hiss/Etc
DiaBetic
caused by medication(s)?
Lactose Intolerant (sp?)?
Autie?
Aspie?
Just plain overweight?
Underweight?
Geeky and like data?
You might need something like this?
assuming you care what others think,
and guessing at what a general audience
that fat slob of an USofAHoles
typical in the mainstream media...
GeneralPublic/Population
Trivia knowing anything about what we eat?
Survey?
what?
why?
FoodLog?
what's that?
you're not fat, how can you be an OverEater?
Much less Weigh and Measure?
Assumptions
updating is bad
learning another guberment source
and some import/ export
see the diff(s)
of what I've been doing on
PackagingDataExamples2021
...
compared to what's up there?
Time Limits
CountDowns2021
days and counting?
one of the biggest dings
is Debris?
Garbage?
really Catholic hate
degradation, demeaning and stealing
20211119ReVerse911Attempts2021
PoliticalHateCrimes2021
AttemptedMurderByInspections2019
SomeOfHowThePoorIsKilledByTheSystems2012
Book Data
USDA published lots,
i guess
and for public domain,
no?
PortionControl2021
CookSomeThing2019
CookSomeThingElse2021
Books2021
FoodBooks2020
IceCreamMakingBooks2019
MiscBooks2019
MetaBreadBooks2019
OrangeDriedBeefMirage
BachelorsRicePuddingVeganOption
SomePublishedWorks
at least on thing i like
but decoding it
Nutritional Retention
basically prep/cooking stuff
what does that do to the nutritional value of the food
so a recipe like i've done above,
though not detailed enough in those writeups (sp?),
with weights and measures,
like typically do now,
how to calculate/ estimate the nutritional value(s)?
http://www.ars.usda.gov/SP2UserFiles/Place/12354500/Data/retn/retn06.pdf
ISBN
Bound
CopyRight
Pages
index
Links
USDAData2021
http://USDA.gov
http://Data.gov
http://www.ars.usda.gov/SP2UserFiles/Place/12354500/Data/retn/retn06.pdf
Nut.SourceForge.net
sends to
ChronoMeter app
instead of easily seeing even the old FLOSS code
so sold out?
or what?
major refresh doesn't show
or moved to GitHub or similar?
Jim Jozwaik
(looking up that name
is someone similar
name who died...)
name mentioned
so might have been an adopted
or jacked page?
searching around, found
https://sourceforge.net/projects/nut/
shows a project not updated for the last
two year...
and cull the links mentioned above
and elsewhere on this page
automated like?
tag cloud?
/GoFish
the usual
searching may find other interesting things
and not so interesting that need updating
so how about you actually update things?
Legacy2020
Legacy2019
Legacy2017
Loot2020
Lout2020
Lout2020.PBWorks.com.txt
Conclusion
Summary of experience or similar
Some updates from the traditional stuff i looked at
say 5-7 years ago,
but not the manufacturer has to provide free access
to their packaging information on their sites,
instead of SmartLabel (tm ElseWhere)
where you can't even screen save?
like CVS (tied to BigPharm)
and can't save stuff even screenshots there either,..
Guberment data through
API Rate limits
3.x k hits/ day?
and have to sign up for a key?
and that's free and open source
government data?
I guess corp use
and guberment servers?
Manually trying to access the data
and very long URLs needlessly so?
a repeat factor (have to enter number of servings,
where assuming one would be most easy for most people,
even one 100g, 1 fruit (medium apple/PineApple?)
so multiple calls to get basic information,
needlessly so, afaict,
screen scraping techniques typical of web stuff,
and might get blocked, mentions of going over the
APi rate limit gets one blocked for a day,
or so, and other actions, afaict...
On a SmartPhone getting the data,
is difficult too, with some character sizes,
typing keyboard pops up, and width/
LandScape/ Portrait problems, to see wider data,
iirc, i got frustrated with poorly designed stuff,
and stopped even trying it,
typical of dealing with
guberment, and large organizations,
think Enron, Lobbying, and
Thank You For Smoking
as Ag is known to favor many things,
meat, poultry, diary industries,
as large lobbying factors,
where healthier eating is
neglected, for higher lobbying funds,
i guess, IANAL nor Lobbyist,
nor PAC/ SuperPAC, etc...
And smoking can kill you,
back in the day when cigarette machines
were most places, and soda machines still
in schools, well with high sugar/fructose
caffienated (sp?) products instead of
fake sodas, artificial sweeteners and
juice like subsititues,
And Reagan thought ketchup was a vegetable...
(it's a fruit right?
like most things on the Left Coast?)
/Ducks
MuscovyDuck2016
MuscovyMissing2017
Discussion
A place for feedback on the page presented
What data do you have?
have you manually entered it yoursel(f|ves)?
and it's copyrighted packaging information
or only the presentation/ marketing spin
the NutritionFacts must be public somewhere,
no?
what does copyright mean?
a temporary lease from the public domain?
how many years?
in Disney time?
MickeyMouseIsARegisteredRepublican
MiceRatsAndMickey2012
now your parent died of heart disease,
you have (hyper|hypo)lipid (sp?)
high triglycerides
and having other problems,
and 20211119ReVerse911Attempts2021
AttemptedMurderByInspections2019
Inspectionz2018
ZigZagPityPartyForTheNannyState
RepublicanTerrorists2013
SlumLords2013
SomeOfHowThePoorIsKilledByTheSystems2012
CountDowns2021
How would you solve it?
Time is ticking...
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- correct a few numbers on USDA
- hits/ day given was low
- by maybe a third?
- download size
- compressed
- ending size
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