20220209Step2.HP.txt

20220209Step2.HP.txt

ReCreation of a share on Step2

the God Steps
many people have problems with them
and at the beginning of the program


shorthand for them are
I Can't
Dog/God Can
I think i'll let Him

a typical exercise is to write out your
religious/spiritual history


and the 12 Steps are based on Spiritual
not Religious
the difference may become clear

you don't have to believe in anything
in particular
while historically
mostly Christian fellowship
based on Bill & Lois

Henry James
Varieties of Religious Experience
the Wilsons weren't typical protestant/
Caltholic,
Jewish
later Muslim

but it helps to believe in something
to grow spirtually

there are atheist/ agnostic meetings

many meetings are held in churches

a loving god/Dog
many start out with a hateful/
vendictive/ vengeful god/Dog
with HELL and damnation
which may be both entertaining
and instructive for kids
and others



HP as Dog
loving caring
companion

HP as Nature
i'm more pagan and naturalist
MotherNature
not always nice,
espcially in storms,

why god/Dog destroys

why my losses?
all my relatives that cared about me
GrandMother
GrandFather
GrandMother
 (=GrandParents)
 my parents found religion again
  after losing their parents
  find out in her obit that she was studying religion
  another degree or similar
  after a PhD. thought it just interest
  in language/culture
  seeing a monk
  
Uncle
Cousin
Aunt
Uncle
Father
Aunt
Mother
(not sure/positive of order)
a lot of cancer
AIDS/
cancer & suicide
hit by a truck
 and died a while later
 
have forsaken me?


organized religion

relatives musicians
 irreverant at other times
  and drinking after work on SunDays

a minister in the family tree
 Protestant

high Anglican/Episcopal
language
 old english
 incomprehensible
 dyslexia made it not fun/very difficult
 
SunDay school
Good News Bible

likely as day care/
until old enough and given a choice
didn't have to

ironically dogma
ThouShalt
turns me off of a lot of it

people, and how they are

disOrder(s)
religioousity
some think a kind of schizophrenia
logic disordered

lack fo logic to religion

Faith

HP as DoorKnob
many court ordered and others
forced to be there
think the DoorKnob
and getting out of there

HP as Group
that's tricky particularly
with group dynamics
being what they are

gender
all female
for a male

orientation
imagine being different
and gay/lesbian/ bi/ trans/ etc
and told what/ who you are is a sin
doesn't make one want to belong
and can't in many religions

WelComing Churches

some allowed us (meetings) in here
one in particular
and started going to some of those
but a very liberal one

for the kids/little relatives
as daycare
church of the English Muffin
ran out of wafers
so used English Muffins

church in the round
theatre
nativity plays


Church as place that gives W(h)ine
sacrement /
eucarhist?
bread and body of Christ
wine
refuse/ ask for juice instead of liquor
like with the kids

ironically my first was a sweet
manashevits (sp?)
at 13 considered a man
bar mitzpha
(sp?)


InterFaith
probably the closest things to
12STep

SpiritualKinderGarden

Concrete thinker
(a lot like Autism)
difficult concepts
tangible

playing God/Dog
many professions
doctors

lawyers

writers
editors

likely other(s)
social workers/
ASSUMing
(ASSUME = making an ASS out of U and ME)
what's best for others
when not even consulted/
part of the process...

ramming down throat

Priest Sexual Abuse
many strikes against

Catholic
school age friend
bought a Rolling Stones album
some girls for a birthday present
and turned away

not knowing much/ anything about
banned items
bad taste


participating
gave a speech part of a group
and embarassed self in front of entire congregation/
fellowship
not that uncommon for moi/me

a social blindness or just plain low vision?


One of Us
song out when i was coming into program(s)
by Joan Osborne
(link?)

imagine being a relative of OzzieOsborne
what kind of program you would need
* don't know that she is/ isn't
and likely wouldn't discuss if were
from such a noteable family

ironically i went to see her ein concert
and talked a bit aaftewards
thanking for the song

generally perferred the other people
in the show/Paul Thorne
boxer against alberto Duran

Hammer and Nail

bought CDs on site


sign very awkward
attributing help from a song

guard/

MetroAccess
getting back
nursary (sp?) shot (former) military on Beacon Hill?
for picking flowers
relationship problems

police brutality
running through stop signs/ lights
killed someone

now Marcus Alerts/ law(s)
being implemented
(bady?)



lecturing going on too long
heckled
who long do we have to listen to this
online and just turn it off
interrupted by chair/ group/

like lecture and pontificating

punishing for not making a time limit
some limit sharing to 3 miiutes
and have a timer

i don't share many times
and kind of keep/ reserve my time
like Congress

have to go do laundry
machine(s)
sleeping bag
and UE so soaking wet
8 minutes in
before vinishing and can't spin
to dry
and cold too

someone coming in behind me
large lanito man
unmasked with a family load of laundry
where had one person rule(s)
just carrying for

said would be back

went and changed
part way through

couldn't join after


As Founder(s)/Leader(s)
who won't let go

start up a group and a meeting
then run it into the ground

i've been part of closing up more than my share
of meeting(s)
of various programs
attendance gets lot
kiss of death to a meeting?

FriDay meetings
people have better things to do
someone ran off with the money
books
start paying for the meeting myself
end up with  as the only person there
group leper

blamed for things
buy new book(s)

have boxes of group stuff
but kept it going

gave away book(s)

to library ironincally don't
have that book to do a literature meeting
to donate into the library
will it stay there
use wifi


WorkShops
generic 12Step
like holiday meetings
marathon meeting(s)
don't ave what program
not specific
just attend and likely get something out of it
typically keep someone from drinking/drugging/
acting out/ whatever the program
fellowship as helpful
fights loneliness

something to celebrate
though non religious



literature/
step meeting
BluePrint for Progress
Step 4

Reaching for Personal FreeDom
spent a number of years in a small group
group conscience was not to require home work
just show up
then people dropped left and right

down to 3 of us
i had much of the experience

but going on for years
turned off others coming in

and kept going
after the book(s) ended
competing meeting started before

and the end of my time there
going and being of service
when to call the meeting

maybe like the Royal Flying Doctors Service
PBS show
new to me
go to see a guy they know
wife came on board
no lift
stairs

but had to leave / get off
not space/ weight limit

another had a problem with the plane?
into a dust storm

guy Codes
can't land
CPR for 20+ minutes
chest compressions
lost and have to say

tell friend/ wife
he died

and other things in there
not say I know how you feel,
when don't
haven't lost life partner
& all hope?
ranch/ farm surviving

knowing how/ wnen to end

How to Share
for those that don't including me
what we usually say
(coming up with a lead)
is how it was
but not a drunkalogue
keep the focus on us
 reading from written
  notes
  ad lib
  keep it light/ fun
  easy to listen to
  from the heart
  public speaking
  
what it's like now


like mental health history,
say ti so many times
becomes a comedy rotuine

other places/ times

one group has a reading
what to bring to a meeting
not use it as a _dumpingGround?_ for

not go on talking
after i have made my point
(we are keeping score here?)
some call AA the DeBate society?

having to be right

performing
look at me selfie culture
perhaps more eloquent
but vacuuous?

more spiritual
as a way of finding a replacmenet

among the girls/ women

can't listen that much
don't care?
heard it all before?

and just leave
instead of interrupt

i typically use the chat
and talk back to what i see/ hear
like with television
active listening
and chime in

but not the format of most 12Step
while in counseling a hmmm
i hear you/ tell me more/
how does that make you feel
body language

but with out camera
run out the clock

and end of meeting time
bell goes off
someone has to cut off

out of time
like a 50 minute hour for therapy

somehow judge irellevant
not what we want to hear
here for getting gossip
for school
stalking / harassing


wrote out and sent in
and a rejection letter
for publication
claimed wasn't spiritual
tend towards the practical


while have ideas for daily readers
Slogans
365 of those with variations
and what they mean
part of Teen game(s)
SloganBinGo
with kid(s)
to win
have to say what it means
or guess


and on and on

not being other's HP
some situations where
tohers depend/ rely on too much

giving food, extras
so picking up food,
others need
particularly new
and friendly say what i know about it
risks/ danger(s)
but dependency
and vary who gets/ give
started to refuse

survey
pretending to have the answer(s)
write out
oppose


only one there for a meeting
and a second person arrives,
then have/ keep a meeting going
technically only takes 2 people 
to have a meeting

but is it really a good meeting
and some programs
expecting to solve all their problems
a personal beating board/ punching bag
like volunteering for anger management
teaching a program/ way HEALS
and feeling beat up
eventually left

women,
and can't be ehier sponsor
hlep with the 12Steps
guide/
temporary sponsor
13Stepping
porgram of other need(s)/wants
particularly around Valentine(s)Day
HoliDays

lonely people

character defects
pity or rescue

double edge sword of Helping
professional ilmit(s)
rent a friend
not really a friend
closer to prostitution?

don't go do things together
cna't just call up/ go see
anytime
appointment(s)
money involved
insurance

but maybe some of how to relate?
treatment plan
goals


being able to trust?
and when that is broken?

fixer upper ReLationShips
broken/  people in trouble/ have problem(s)
major problem(s) can't help with
and don't want to be around

drinking/drugging/ etc addiction(s)
being one /many of them

what i'm hearing means run other other way
don't get involved/
don't want to listen to
be around

not what we are here for

limits and boundaries

(this can be endless
as a writing/ notes to self
outline of thing(s)
as an account/ reCreation
time runs out and it ends
but the mising parts
how it would have done it differently
and later steps continued to take personal
inventory and when we were wrong pomrply admitted it
though wrong is a moral thing
and not sure i did/
what was missing
for me time after

and the laundry situation
had been up many hours before/most of the night
but some down time before,
not that unlike today/now

so started early enough
but hings went wrnng/
DogLaughsAtOurBestLaidPlans
and applies to daily life/
routine things too
a schedule
say 30-40 minutes wash
1 hour dry
but kept on tryingg and UE
UnEven load?
another error on the dryer
couldn't tell the time
CardReadError
switch machine(s)

and backing up
30-40 minute washer
multiple loads sitting there
15 minute had a sign
or management take your clothes

sock thieves
kids stealing stuff from other(s)

have found oheres laundry in mine
and more malicious
missing stuff
have anything good in there

inconvenience
shared and part of the hood problem(s)

doing so early animosity with other(s)
but when awake and alone
noisey?

somehow set up/ something else
and get away
put in a bad / difficult position
other things to do

get/ run away
what do they want from me?

don't feel positive emotion(s)
in general
relief after a difficult thing
and many difficult things are going on

routine and remaining/ keeping stable/
connected
somethings that help

)


sharing for the newcomer
many have heard what i've said before
but focus on the newcomer in meetings
helping others is how we get better
and the contrast of what is said and what is done
if i'd tell someone to do something/
giving advice is a problem, many times
not one's place to tell other(s) what to do
but yet, fixing is common character defect

how it was for me,
and history of coming in
others relate
break it down
proessional like
make it wasy for others/ easier/
tell your story
friendly

enabling?
trying to do it for other(s)
instead of let them experience it for themselve(s)


Came to BeLieve that a PowerGreaterThanOurSelves
could restore us to SAnity

CWord
Crazy
mixed in here as well

doing the same thing over and over and expecting
different results
repetitive = addiction(s)

perhaps easier to see in drinking/drugging
but beheviors not as apparent (sp?)
fixing
enbabling
CoDependent (sp? e a)

what is repeating?
in relationShip(s)


homelessness?

playing victim?
abuse cycle?

less than

leading people on?

above my PayGrade?
act as if
helpful/ can do

practicing active listening
thinking i care/ can help?
misleading?
romatic?

ARomantic
(n)
confused/switched with aeromatic?
in a survey announcement


etc