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CommieCamp2012

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CommieCamp2012

 


 

Introduction/Definition/etc

 

Commie Camp is an amalgamation (sp?)/

concatenation of Commie Clothing and

a Intentional Community conference

http://CommunitiesConference.org

held at TwinOaks in Louisa, VA

over Labor Day weekend 2012.

 

 

Body

 

 

Registering

 

I tried for an online scholarship

but never got a response...

Maybe I paused finishing the application

thinking I needed to clean it up some,

or the web ate it, or something,

but they said they didn't have it...

 

After a few emails that didn't really answer the question,

getting really nervous, almost a week before,

then down to a day or so before the Con,

I saw on the website Communities-Conference.org or similar

http://CommunitiesConference.org blog

(I muck up names, so keep searching or maybe I'll get

around to fixing the link on edits)

that said they had 100 or so people and expecting a few more

dropping in, which sounded like me, they had their hands

full with all the other logistics of getting the con going,

no need to make things more complicated like I need

a personal invitation or something like a college

acceptance letter to go for a long weekend alternative

hippie type conference.

 

 

I went anyways, with much more uncertainty and trepidation

than would have been necessary, IMO...

But I'm not trying to put on a Con, so I should just

shut up, chillax man, or some similar more kewl

sounding phrase....

 

Why Are You Here?

 

I got sick of the question, as after a while,

it was more like random people you don't

know come up and ask probing very personal

questions of strangers, or we don't want you here,

you are not one of us...

 

My safety clothes for motorcycle are

military spec/ style as that's about all they

have around DC for that, easily available,

so that probably didn't help,

and not currently livng in a community,

and other personal characteristics,

such as Autism like traits of aloofness

and being off on my own,

but while, after finally taking a shower,

I stank by the time I got there in the heat,

packing and 95 degree heat wave,

all I wanted was a shower, but you can't

shower as they need water pressure

(neighboring town Mineral, VA had the

EarthQuake a year or so ago

and mucked up the well water flow

volume so it's either /or outdoor kitchen

water, or shower)

 

I returned to people who were kind,

caring and talked with me, and gave them

an awkward hug, some of which for various reasons

didn't know what to do with it,

and one declined, which made me feel unloved,

so disconnected/ discontinued even saying hi

to her... And I didn't discriminate with the guys,

offering one buddy type motorcyclist a hug

and did the manly chest thumping

type version <_Insert Tim Allen grunt here_>

 

Motivation

 

For those that have been reading this site for a while,

first, my condolences <grin>, it's a mess, but it has some

rough ideas, lots of ranting but history and timeline

to what makes sense, for me, Notably

JerrySpaceIdea was a proposal

to start a residential program,

and more recently

HippieClownCamp2011

and even Autreat2012  and the previous two years

of Autreat also on this site at Autreat2011

Autreat2010PoorPitifulMeAndTheTreatmentsIRantOn

and Autreat2010PoorPitifulMeAndTheTreatmentsIRantOn

and other AutismLinks somewhat condensed,

but Autreat is only a week long face to face,

while lives on email group and internet somewhat

too, I've left that after three mostly failed attempts...

 

CommunitiesConference.org was an intense three days,

Friday afternoon through Monday, Labor Day, ending in the

mid afternoon...

 

Workshifts

 

Not only are the scholarship people required to do

2 hour shifts, but all attendies are expected to do at 

least one shift in helping make the conference operate,

WorkShifts are mostly food preparation and cleanup,

dishes, latrine supplies refills, lighting trail lanterns

standby fill in people, etc, but there was childcare/

kid entertaining schedule too, and a mini playground

with jump in the [ hard metal sided, ouch] tub of balls

a neat/ unique hammock jungle gym, and other

miscellaneous amusements,

 

 

OneLaptopPerChilds XOs

 

I bought two OLPC XO's from a local tech lending library,

and lent those out individually to kids,

after checking with parents/ caregivers,

forming policies, on the fly,

and dealing with a lot of interpersonal/ social awkwardness,

lent them out, electrically recharged batteries in them,

tried to make sure they were safe from rainstorms,

droppage, loss manglement, throwing, etc,

the general interpretation was kids thought

they were giveways/ Grabs & Lounge table, freebies,

(read MINE), but I could not, and they are generally

not commercially available, see

http://OLPCLearningClub.org for more information

on the lending libraries on http://Laptop.org

and http://SugarLabs.org for free downloads

of the operating system plus activities

of the same software (SoAS/"SugarOnAStic" /

stick= USB memory stick),

just not the cute and clever unique and rare

in the USA green kid hardware.

 

HippieTime

 

Announcements (huge metal gong like bell

heard for an acre or so) when well done, included humor,

especially when it was true,

HippieTime = Casual start times, 15 minutes late a lot fhe time,

 

I've elsewhere (CritMass) called it California Time, but to each their own...

 

 

Camping

 

Campsites were marked out along trails with large jugs,

industrial sized containers reused/ recycled

holding lanterns, little candles, on the inside and/or top,

probably surrounded by sand or water

or something to prevent fires,

some jugs spraypainted with logos,

two female icons, or similar stuff to remember

sites, and Latrines,

 

OutHouses

 

Portapoties, not the commercial kind of

JohnnyOnfTheSpot (tm) JiffyJohns (tm)

or chemical toilets, perhaps the generic term,

but holes dug into the ground, pits,

and a wooden, plywood enclosures and nice

wood toilet seat, which doesn't lift, BTW,

and sawdust bucket, one is to drop

sawdust down to cover up your shit,

literally, and one is instructed, through posted

signs inside, to pee in the woods,

as large quantities of urine generally causes

problems, but there was no way to walk

out into the woods, without going off

trail and just pissing on a tree, for guys it's

is easier, not sure how women manage,

but that's not my issue, at the moment.

 

Handwashing

 

Just as one generally gets a tour

and know where the facilities are first,

I'm generally somewhat mechanical

and it takes time to figure out how things

are done in different cultures, mostly the

mechanics, as I'm generally blind/ low vision to

the social aspects, claiming partial Autism/ Aspieism...

 

Next to the outhouses, doubles some with a curtain

rod but no curtain double doors most,

sharing with a stranger was beyond me,

but had one comic moment, after it was suggested

to a lady and me, I pointed out there was a handwashing

station, which I got a nasty that was inappropriate,

but he seemed blind to the effects of his suggestion...

 

 

Integrated Conference Workshop Sites

 

Alternating with the campsite sites for tents

were workshop tents/ canopies, some tarps

strung in the trees with ropes somehow,

(*I think they have hippie monkeys,

fairly literally who like tree climbing*)

some more commercial, with poles,

one of which collected a big tub of water,

funny after the resource sharing workshop,

of how to store energy and stuff during scarce

times, rain bins/ barrels come to mind,

some workshop sites with chairs,

some more permanent with benches

or a mix,generally less than the people gathered,

(they probably went over capacity, but as far as I know

didn't turn anyone away, at least actively, maybe passively

by non reply) and several times I had to go get my own

plastic lawn chair to sit down, as the ants, I later discovered

looking down in the middle to an

anthill being rebuilt after the rainstorm,

were looking hungrily at my pants,

and I'm not looking forward to that,

other workshop, I just walked out of,

the anger and hostility from the presenter,

while the material was interesting enough

Joining Or Starting a Community

the presenters style was openly hostile,

until I had to say, "Can you co-lead this group?"

"With Me? Or Anyone?"

Everyhing people were saying was not what

he wanted to hear and it was feeling like abuse

something I don't tolerate, so eventually I walked off...

 

I'm sure he's knowledgeable, as a consultant,

and maybe having a bad day, or low sales in the

booksale site, but WHATEVER...

 

 

 

Tours

 

TwinOaks

 

I got out of the Con for a little while on a two hour tour

of Twin Oaks, which is a separate part of the

organization, they host events at TwinOaks,

but it's a large 500 acre mostly wooded lot,

and there are the other part of the place,

organizationally, they do tofu,

hammock creation/ woodshop, distribution

and sales, basically businesses in addition to the

farming and seeds enterprises.

 

Joining

 

This was something I knew little to nothing about,

as one has a process one needs to go through

to join a community, in this case TwinOaks,

is a three week long trial residence, and

then go away for a while, to decide, and come back,

but they have a waiting list of about 15

people so no openings at the moment.

 

 

IncomeSharing

 

A totally foreign concept to me,

what's yours is mine, what's mine is mine,

like a greedy wife or husband or something,

but people live on shared resources,

they take old people's social security,

for example, as income, and the community owns

everything, land, buildings, the cars/trucks/ tractors,

only 17 on the site, for 100 or so people

(some are kids) mostly in 100 square foot dorm room size

rooms, and community kitchens,

farm space, bicycles all over the place,

mostly in disrepair, AFAICT, etc

 

Hospice

 

According to the tour and some other

folklore, website browsing,

Kat was a long time member,

author and most likely a founder,

who over the decades of Twin Oaks

existence, TwinOaks is one of the

older communities,

along with East Wind in Missouri

and Sand Hill and some others

most of which I would have to look up

in the http://IC.org directory, for sale on siite,

in the back of the registration table,

not a library, but a book sale....

If I had had the money to do so,

as tracking it down and adding shipping

will be a hassle...

 

Kat left the community (most people seem to get

sick of dishes left around) and in returning

changed the community, in a direction that

seems to help, IMO, there are older

people, aging hippies and others who want

to live out their last years in the community,

instead of nursing care, etc...

 

Some of the work shifts are caring for elderly

just as they do for child care...

 

LEF

 

I was thinking LES for a while,

it's a low footprint/ environmentally sound farm,

called Living Energy Farm,

only a few miles from Twin Oaks in Louisa, VA.

It's in development and Alexis and a woman

gave people from the Conf a walking tour.

 

They bought a lot that was clear cut

by lumbering industry, and started planting

seed crops for Southern Exposure Seed Exchange

and are building ultra high efficiency solar

and other low impact housing.

 

I took video but need to upload

edit and clear it, of the tour,

one segment was really interesting

was the battery and solar parts,

I'm a geek and really know nothing

about most housing tech having been

in apartments, mostly subsidized,

these people are rural farming organically

and living somewhat off the grid,

while others buy solar and add it to

an existing house, this is Do It Yourself 

(DIY) make a house, build it with others,

and live in a Utopian type alternative

lifestyle, of various degrees of technology

friendliness to some don't like cell phones

or computers, at all, (con policy was take it

out of the area to make or receive a call,

better yet turn it off entirely, I was surprised to

have signal most of the time, even it if was

only one bar and extremely slow)

some have computers, mostly don't like

them much at all, but discovered Twin Oaks

had a T-1 line coming in, and WiFi,

but the business and other stuff eats the

bandwidth that you are asked to to do

streaming video...

 

Anyways, after a generally low tech

experience in the woods at Con,

one geeky presenter, from talking

about sharing resources to

how to build a house, was a leap,

I know nothing, not even the names of

platsics used to kill off a part of the undergrowth,

now top growth, lay plastic, or recycled truck

tires cut out and patched up tubes/ valves off,

and over time it clears/ kills off the plants below

instead of turning the soil with a rototiller

or something gas hungry suburbanites would do,

including my late father in his modest victory garden

 

I keep on going off topic on the LEF, but it was very

interesting, and technical and maybe I can write it up

separate and include some still and video clips

eventually on my further post processing of the event...

 

 

Schedule

 

I generally could not live by the CommunitiesConference

schedule (which is usual for me, over time some years

I eventually figure out something that works for me,

and adapt and/or ask for accommodations)

and the talks were mostly randing academic to political,

to fairly commercial (Socioarchy)

FoodNotBombs guy CJ, non commercial, but a luminary

keynote draw, some authors, Alexis a DIY Green probably self

taught geek genius, Mockuppy/ Occupy Simulation,

and other community, spirituality, and even a Native American

sweat lodge, and other stuff like Open Space, member led

activies, an UnConference, for those familiar with

tech Cons, my first actual UnConference,

 

OpenSpace = UnConference

 

OpenSpace was fun to see it run,

initially people got up with a short 90 second

commercial/ elevator speech of what they

wanted to talk about, Farm Animals Petting & Tour,

and Writing Workshop, some of my favorites,

both of which were not popular enough

when everyone got two dots and voted,

the most popular ones were then shifted around in

meeting space on a wall board in the Pavilion

taking two at once, I sat in the hammock swing chair...

 

 

Hammock it Up

 

They really could have more than one hammock hanging

from the rafters in the pavilion, and even multilevel

for those of us who aren't as afraid of heights and

double height them, (with ladders) as resource sharing

was tough, I largely didn't attend anything I had to be

in a fixed chair for, and they Make hammocks,

damn it, just use more, some used / clearance /

broken ones were for sale at the registration table,

I had one picked out for $50 and a stand

for an other $50, but need to redesign,

it for motorcycle camping use

and other accessibility modifications...

 

Or rent them and make them portable?

Box hammock premium seats in the

Pavilion, now called Bird Cage!

 

 

Evening Activities

 

I missed a lot of the evening activities,

as had been up since 4 am, and collapsing early,

one of which was the Saturday night Auction at the

TwinOaks dining hall, and Dance...

 

I caught the beginning of the Sunday evening

Acorn dinner and Bonfire and got back

by a generous couples ride between the two,

about 10 miles, in the dark with unknown directions,

but we made it...

 

Last Day

 

In parallel to the people at the Sophia

House paid training on Sociocracy (tm),

one old time member of Twin Oaks (Pax?)

led a series of impromptu workshops,

since they didn't do the Mockupy / Occupy simulation,

AFAICT and I missed part of the announcement

of that history and rationale...

 

 

IfYouReallyKnewMe

 

An exercise workshop, which got a little

out of hand, well actually that one was good,

but the next ones, as people were both critical,

overly in my opinion,

In a controlled and caring environment,

(huge disclaimer here, as I'm generally socially

an irritant or more politically correct, instigator)

If You Really Knew Me was something

of a truth or dare, but a little different,

If You Knew Me

"I would rather laugh than cry"

I had intended to say die, but didn't

have the nerve in the group which I was

mostly an outcast from...

 

They went around the room, each person saying something,

or passing, maybe following something like "I want pussy"

which is really difficult to follow,

some allowed responses were "Ouch"

 

Gender, Religion and other disclosures

were common themes, mostly at the end

of the conference I was sad that I'd barely

met most of the people in the workshop,

feeling further outcast, some I'd talked to

individually kind of knowingly WTF

during some of the groups hyper criticality

of me, as it developed further en masse...

 

Witholds

 

Where you in a controlled and presumably

emotionally safe environment,

say something to someone

with explicit permission, along these lines,

SoAndSo, are you willing to take a withold?

If Yes? Then proceed

If No, then it gets dropped.

There is a 24 hour delay before responding,

so that one does not escalate to global thermonuclear

war, relationship wise, and emotionally,

some time to think about what was said,

and process it, but for the conference,

which I pointed out, we were gone

in 24 hours so didn't have further contact,

and gave one of emaisl on one of 4

clarification questions from someone else

in group (other than the person told the withheld)

I also got into how that could potentially become

a bully stick, and probably literally kill someone

with harm and exclusion, like a Amish Shunning,

which the group probably went to processing

into he's suicidal/ a danger, what

do we do with that outcast, Asshole/ _someothercurseword_

or something similar, I went to clean up and do some

personal and group chores including, but not limited to:

putting away my tent, that had sogged over the

downpours of the last days,

trying to dry stuff on the picnic tables,

as there were not other real places to dry,

in the forest, with only a few clearings,

making me later think of the need for a

SolarOvenClothesDryer

 

Also doing dishes  left behind on the picnic benches,

and all over the place, it was generally not people

cleaning up after themselves but people thought

everyone else was their person servant or

or a catered full service conference, but

a continual annoyance really, maybe kids

and run off leaving their dishes, or adults too,

coffee cups all over, and the chores I did

included, helping start boiling huge pots of water

at 4 or 5 am to 6 am, for coffee or tea

seeking Partial Credit (tm) was my joke,

taking a huge heave compost bucket,

carrying it for an older but kind woman and

with someone else, and a lot of what about this

that (where does overflowing trash from the

woodshop bathroom go?) and the other type

quetsions at the registration desk,

 

Some enteraining of kids and adults

(one guy doing chores at the dish washing

site, just did other people's dishes to which

I interjected hopefully humorously to a

questioning young lady that she was helping

just by entertaining us being there,

the other guy (tall, young, handsome,

unshirted) asked for a massage/back rub,

which she thought was too much/ out of bounds,

,or perhaps heard as sexual and called foul,

when really it was probably

just rub my back while I do your

dishes or something more hippie

and innocent...

 

 

 

PhoneCall

 

Calling someone for support,

patterned after Call Mom,

but I went to Calling back Twin Oaks

"Yeah, it's been a while,

I need money to start a community for

and by disabled"

"well, that's a lot to ask",

"Need rich people, but disabled generally aren't rich"

but maybe like Korean communities

which help start ofher businesses

in a community fund, one intentional community

or several can decide to help another

start up, and I called it "TwinOaks2,

name taken", (parallel joke on Walden2 here),

 

 

ClosingCircle

 

With the 30 or so people left, many had

gone to the conference training, a separate

paid thing at Sophia House, which I'd been

to for a VOCAL training a number of years ago,

Herding Turtles report when Patrick was still

alive, and one of the last places I'd seen him,

with photo of him somewhere in there...

 

Anyways, my closing statement/ forced summary

was built off the comments of the youngest in the circle,

aged 5, "fun for overgrown children too" or very similar,

It's a little hazy in the middle of the night trying to get

down all the experiences of a day, thinking back

to what it was like doing a month long thing at

Geshundheit back in October of last year,

coming up on the year anniversary, next month,

wondering what I've done to make it happen,

after getting caught up in day to day life

and just plain survivial, actually, in the last few

weeks, and I really needed to get away

from it for a while, and regain some sanity,

lost in SomeOfHowThePoorIsKilledByTheSystems2012

housing recert process and then apartment manglement

meetings, which I have to face more of later today...

.

 

 

 

Conclusion

 

Summary of experience or similar

 

I learned a fair amount,

was generally not accepted as well as I would hope,

but my welcome/ lack of registration and awkwardness

contributes to that, motorcycle instaed of van sharing

rides are the usual method though I wanted to bicycle tour

to the Con and it's on a Bike Tour Route, I just had too

many pressing other housing issues to take the time to do that...

 

I connected with a few people. would have liked to sleep with

several of he cute women, (individually or in a group <grin>)

but largely was not felt loved but for a  few caring people,

a greeter, which turns out to have been Pax, when I drove

into the wrong Twin Oaks entrance, and got directions I couldn't

follow, driving instead encountering an ostrich/ emu type bird

think big bird buy balding/brown and scary instead of kid funny

so  maybe I did have a "relationship": prior to the closing workshops...

Oops.

 

The Hammock business I'd like to redesign their line of products

to something more useful to me, Motorcycle portable with

a double stick snap together and low weight frame,

RentAHammock during Con, and other ideas,

maybe I'll use the suggestion to try a book

from 1974 that Twin Oaks is in and design my own,

as a business for another startup community,

named TripleOaks?

 

Requirements of a work camp type of thing

of the 42 hours per week shifts could not work

in existing disability subsidized housing type

framework.  As disabled I can't work, literally and legally.

Maybe it can be reframed as therapy, support groups

and life skills training and keep the income.

Housing Subsidy is an issue, federal program

works on square feet and market rate so small (100 sq ft?)

dorm room shared living room dining room/ workshop space

is going to be less financially sound than the

current system...

 

Innsfree, a disabled provider faith based?

service community for Intellectual Disabilities

is the closest I've seen/ heard of met people,

but it's not peer based, so significant redesign

model required there

 

LEF is Kewl, and while in the infancy of startup,

sounds promising.

 

Acorn is kewl in a large established agribusiness

way.  Mostly younger people thought, and has a

black lab, pupply which makes the excluding dogs

problem fixable as a new startup idea...

 

Mostly getting the range and experiencing the conference

camping site was educational, even if I missed most

of the normal scheduled program as tends to happen

with my disability and sleep schedule.

 

Playing with kids on the OLPC XO computer was fun,

I need to learn how to do that better, lessening the

initial awkwardness, and not taking all my saying goodbye

and getting contact emails for followup time in a small

impromptu makeup time session at the end...

 

Hippie women are generally appealing to me,

but I'm a pig, and an old one at that,

and need to find a relationship and stop/

tone down my male pigginess/ as I've been in a

glacially cold zone for a long time...

 

 

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